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Alyk

Alyk

Boston, MA
February 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:13 PM

Tom Cruise's very pregnant fiance Katie Holmes is due to give birth to their baby/alien transporter pod in the next few weeks, and she has reportedly decided on a "silent birth," in accordance with Scientology tradition.

So while Katie is giving birth, Tom gets to jump around on the sofa and scream "I love this woman!," but Katie has to keep her trap shut?

As devout disciples of cult religion Scientology, the beautiful actress and her husband-to-be, Tom Cruise, would have to maintain a vigil of total silence in the delivery suite.

The bizarre ritual - which Scientologists believe should be carried out to prevent children from turning mad - is nothing new to Cruise who insisted the biological mothers of the adopted children he had with Nicole Kidman have their babies in silence, according to a 2001 report in America's New York Post newspaper.

Scientology founder, L.Ron Hubbard, tells his followers in his book Dianetics: "Maintain silence in the presence of birth to save both the sanity of the mother and child and safeguard the home to which they will go.

"The maintaining of silence does not mean a volley of 'Sh's', for those make stammerers."


Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

MAR 28, 2006 04:17 PM

Well, if the child was conceived in abject, horrifying, and painful silence...

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

MAR 28, 2006 04:19 PM

I can think of nothing that would make me go insane faster than being forced into absolute silence (without painkillers, I'm sure) during a prolonged moment of considerable pain.

As for the child going mad, I'd be more concerned about growing up around Tom fucking Cruise than being born in silence. surreal

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:20 PM

I swear, if L. Ron Hubbard weren't already dead, I'd pull a Pat Robertson and advocate his assassination.

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:22 PM

_DictionaryGirl_ said:
I can think of nothing that would make me go insane faster than being forced into absolute silence (without painkillers, I'm sure) during a prolonged moment of considerable pain.

As for the child going mad, I'd be more concerned about growing up around Tom fucking Cruise than being born in silence. surreal



Seriously. I wonder if his mother's non-silent birth is Cruise's excuse for his madness.

MessyJessy

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL
August 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:23 PM



You don't know the history of my spermatazoa...I do.

Iseult

Iseult

United Kingdom
September 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:23 PM

I don't see how she could stay silent unless she has all the painkilling drugs available. My daughter had a 'natural' birth and I didn't particularly want to scream during the last part of labour, but I couldn't help it. It hurt like nothing else! shocked

Alyk

Alyk

Boston, MA
February 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:24 PM

mamet said:
I swear, if L. Ron Hubbard weren't already dead, I'd pull a Pat Robertson and advocate his assassination.


Pat is so hardcore, he'd call for an assassination even if the person was already dead.

Alyk

Alyk

Boston, MA
February 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:25 PM

MessyJessy said:


You don't know the history of my spermatazoa...I do.


*glib*

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:25 PM

MessyJessy said:


You don't know the history of my spermatazoa...I do.



Stop being glib, MessyJessy.

Damn you, alyk.

[Edited on Mar 28, 2006 by mamet]

alpha_hazard

alpha_hazard

Fort Collins, CO
April 2004

MAR 28, 2006 04:26 PM

There is something very disturbing about the idea that a science fiction writer, especially one who makes a bet about starting a religion, presumes to know anything about childbirth, psychology, or sanity.

Alyk

Alyk

Boston, MA
February 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:26 PM

mamet said:

MessyJessy said:


You don't know the history of my spermatazoa...I do.



Stop being glib, MessyJessy.


Stop reading my mind, Mamet.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

MAR 28, 2006 04:27 PM

Lissom said:
I don't see how she could stay silent unless she has all the painkilling drugs available. My daughter had a 'natural' birth and I didn't particularly want to scream during the last part of labour, but I couldn't help it. It hurt like nothing else! shocked


But it's just a hormonal thing! You can use vitamins to help a woman through those things! Vitamins, not drugs! You don't know the history of pregnancy or pain, Lissom.... I DO.



ooo aaa

[Edited on Mar 28, 2006 by _DictionaryGirl_]

Iseult

Iseult

United Kingdom
September 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:29 PM

Ah, I see where I went wrong now. biggrin

MessyJessy

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL
August 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:30 PM



Where in the world is...Gliby McGliberson?

Martini

Martini

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

MAR 28, 2006 04:32 PM

this whole concept creeps the shit out of me.

xo

Motionboy

Motionboy

Vancouver, BC
January 2004

MAR 28, 2006 04:34 PM

I hope I got this wrong but does it mean the woman should be silent during childbirth? are scientologists retarded?

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

MAR 28, 2006 04:36 PM

The bizarre ritual - which Scientologists believe should be carried out to prevent children from turning mad...


I don't know, maybe Tom's parents should've tried this.

MessyJessy

MessyJessy

Fort Myers, FL
August 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:36 PM

Motionboy said:
I hope I got this wrong but does it mean the woman should be silent during childbirth? are scientologists retarded?



yes...both mother and father have to be quiet...oh and yes

Oriole

Oriole

Portland, OR
July 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:37 PM

I hate people so much.
How can you be expected to be silent while pushing a melon out of a small...hole.

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

MAR 28, 2006 04:37 PM

She may be silent, but somewhere James Van Der Beek will be screaming and crying uncontrollably.

Chitin

Chitin

New York, NY
December 2004

MAR 28, 2006 04:40 PM

Oh Tom Cruise, you so CRAZY!

MC_Dove

MC_Dove

Cincinnati, OH
November 2004

MAR 28, 2006 04:41 PM

this was my favorite part of the article:


Tom and Katie are also set to be strict parents. Scientologists are encouraged not to comfort or nurture young children because Hubbard believed a child is simply a small adult who can look forward to look after themselves from a young age.



are you fucking kidding me?

kingoftown

kingoftown

Cleveland, OH
October 2005

MAR 28, 2006 04:43 PM

SPOILERS! (Click to view)
fuck tom cruise. fuck him in the ass with a big rubber dick.


biggrin

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

MAR 28, 2006 04:49 PM

alpha_hazard said:
There is something very disturbing about the idea that a science fiction writer, especially one who makes a bet about starting a religion, presumes to know anything about childbirth, psychology, or sanity.



I don't find that disturbing at all. What I find disturbing is that people BELIEVE this shit, even though he made it as absurd as he possibly could have. But people still buy into it. Don't blame L. Ron. Blame the morons that buy into what he wrote, apparently, on a bet.

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