How about pop musicwhat did you listen to before you met Björk?
Wendy O. Williams and the Plasmatics. Some of the first shows I saw when I moved to New York were the Butthole Surfers. They were using found medical films, projecting them behind the bandthings that were really difficult to watch, like a vasectomy. The way they mixed media I found really compelling.
In The Order, from Cremaster 3, you turn the Guggenheim into a kind of video gameare you a gamer?
I played the first wave of arcade games as a teenagerGalaxian, Pac-Man. Donkey Kong is one of those levels games I certainly thought about. Recently, I played a game that excited meGrand Theft Auto. I was editing in San Francisco and driving across the Golden Gate Bridge every day. Id spent a late night trying to land a helicopter on the top of the bridge, and the geometry in the game is pretty precise. Driving across the bridge the following day felt like a completely different experience. I felt that I had a completely new understanding of its structure.
..I think that berneys films re overintellectualized ......and not really that good. cremaster 3 was the only good one .....and the only one you will not fall asleep to ....his succeess seems due to the lack of talented artists out there today. sure his films have meaning but that still does not make them good...except in a visual way. Like all minimalists his work speaks for itself
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alpha_hazard
Fort Collins, CO
April 2004
MAR 27, 2006 03:34 PM
jonasgrumby said:
I really wish he'd get around to releasing the entire Cremaster series on DVD already. Grainy copies will do in the meantime, but come on...
Don't think it'll happen. Art and wide distribution are seldom bedfellows. "The Order" is about all you can get.
You're going to have to just troll the newspapers for showing in your area.
CheshireCat said:
..I think that berneys films re overintellectualized ......and not really that good. cremaster 3 was the only good one .....and the only one you will not fall asleep to ....his succeess seems due to the lack of talented artists out there today. sure his films have meaning but that still does not make them good...except in a visual way. Like all minimalists his work speaks for itself
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but in what way is Barney a minimalist? I'd say that using the Empire State Building and the Guggenheim as sets for your three-hour film is as maximalist as you can get.
jonasgrumby said:
I really wish he'd get around to releasing the entire Cremaster series on DVD already. Grainy copies will do in the meantime, but come on...
Don't think it'll happen. Art and wide distribution are seldom bedfellows. "The Order" is about all you can get.
You're going to have to just troll the newspapers for showing in your area.
Yeah, I saw the entire cycle three times at DC-area theaters a while back, and I've seen them a couple more times at home... but not DVD-quality, if you get my drift.
They were all slated for release five years ago or so, but suddenly got pulled from the schedule. Then "The Order" came out. That's been it ever since...
jonasgrumby said:
I really wish he'd get around to releasing the entire Cremaster series on DVD already. Grainy copies will do in the meantime, but come on...
Don't think it'll happen. Art and wide distribution are seldom bedfellows. "The Order" is about all you can get.
You're going to have to just troll the newspapers for showing in your area.
Yeah, I saw the entire cycle three times at DC-area theaters a while back, and I've seen them a couple more times at home... but not DVD-quality, if you get my drift.
They were all slated for release five years ago or so, but suddenly got pulled from the schedule. Then "The Order" came out. That's been it ever since...
As art pieces they're probably being sold as editions for a very lot of money per print. If so you won't ever see them on wide release.
................thanXs thats exactly what I was thinking. The ORDER is arguably the best thing in the entire Cremaster work which is why it seems thats the only part available to the public.Like all artists its something which comes from a conglomeration of ideas which fascinates the artist himself ( the vaseline ...etc...etc..) he even states in his interview how he was influenced by simple filmS. Minimalists seem to get a over analyzed attention ...I note Andy Warhol films as the prime example.........
susannah_breslin
I'm lost
June 2005
MAR 27, 2006 01:27 PM