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RunWithScissors

RunWithScissors

Casa Grande, AZ
March 2006

MAR 22, 2006 11:20 PM

I'm thinking about going to bartending school. Its just a 40 hour course spread over 2 weeks and its about $500. I'm seriously thinking about going, but I also work at a resturant that always boasts about "promoting from within". However I think its going to take me forever to become a bartender there. Anyway, has anyone ever taken a bartending course and have been treated seriously when looking for a job? I really want to take it, but I don't want to waste my money. I'd hate to put down the money and no one hires me.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

MAR 22, 2006 11:20 PM

no.

its a scam.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

MAR 22, 2006 11:21 PM

just buy the books.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

MAR 22, 2006 11:29 PM

Oooh, I've been interested in this as well. Can you really get hired from just reading the books and practicing at home, or do you need some sort of credential? Because I make a mean mixed drink, but I don't have any papers to back it up.

Quirky

Quirky

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

MAR 22, 2006 11:30 PM

_DictionaryGirl_ said:
Oooh, I've been interested in this as well. Can you really get hired from just reading the books and practicing at home, or do you need some sort of credential? Because I make a mean mixed drink, but I don't have any papers to back it up.


It's like any other hardcore job. Just read the books, practice at home. Then show off your skills during the interview.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

MAR 22, 2006 11:33 PM

Taureolt said:

_DictionaryGirl_ said:
Oooh, I've been interested in this as well. Can you really get hired from just reading the books and practicing at home, or do you need some sort of credential? Because I make a mean mixed drink, but I don't have any papers to back it up.


It's like any other hardcore job. Just read the books, practice at home. Then show off your skills during the interview.


Cool cool. Yeah, I've never worked anything other than retail. Every bit of advice helps!

[Edited on Mar 22, 2006 by _DictionaryGirl_]

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

MAR 22, 2006 11:33 PM

I took a bartending school at my college. It was especially helpful in securing catering jobs on campus, but it also seemed to impress restaurants when I was applying for serving positions. But I never actually tried to get a full-on bartending position.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

MAR 22, 2006 11:37 PM

go to the school of busting your ass as a barback until someone quits or gets canned.

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

MAR 22, 2006 11:38 PM

Car_54 said:

MissTyrios said:
I took a bartending school at my college. It was especially helpful in securing catering jobs on campus, but it also seemed to impress restaurants when I was applying for serving positions. But I never actually tried to get a full-on bartending position.



I took math school once.



It's 2:30am and I have been reading Law and Economics theory for eight hours.

Oops.

battlin_albright

battlin_albright

Dayton, OH
June 2004

MAR 22, 2006 11:46 PM

I've known a handful of people who've gone to bartending school only to try to get a job and be told they have to "work their way through the ranks." It definitely falls under scam when it comes to situations like that. Just easier to get a job in a bar and work your way up.

MrsMeaney

MrsMeaney

Chicago, IL
November 2005

MAR 22, 2006 11:59 PM

just go hang out in a bar long enough to...
know...
i'm sorry... did you have a question?

Nimhly

Nimhly

Green Bay, WI
February 2003

MAR 23, 2006 12:09 AM

Like teaching someone to play duck hunt on nintendo, then throwing them in the middle of world war II.

That's what I say.

Check out the Bartenders group, there's several threads about it. The consensus among the pros is that it's pretty pointless.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

MAR 23, 2006 12:16 AM

Nimhly said:
Like teaching someone to play duck hunt on nintendo, then throwing them in the middle of world war II.

That's what I say.

Check out the Bartenders group, there's several threads about it. The consensus among the pros is that it's pretty pointless.


Nimmers are you saying that I wouldn't be an excellent war sniper? Because I'll have you know that I get 10000 points every time and I always stand with my gun at least a foot away from the screen!

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

MAR 23, 2006 12:17 AM

jason said:
go to the school of busting your ass as a barback until someone quits or gets canned.


This is what I would do.

JoshXXX

JoshXXX

Northborough, MA
March 2004

MAR 23, 2006 01:18 AM

I went and it was good to get tip certified and all the other stuff needed certification here in MA, but I ended up learning more as a barback. If you have the cash, do both, I say.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

MAR 23, 2006 08:20 AM

Imagine the booze you could buy with that $500 and the fun you could have with that two weeks. biggrin

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAR 23, 2006 08:50 AM

Taureolt said:

_DictionaryGirl_ said:
Oooh, I've been interested in this as well. Can you really get hired from just reading the books and practicing at home, or do you need some sort of credential? Because I make a mean mixed drink, but I don't have any papers to back it up.


It's like any other hardcore job. Just read the books, practice at home. Then show off your skills during the interview.


Errr...you don't know what you're talking about.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

MAR 23, 2006 09:24 AM

PointBlank said:

Taureolt said:

_DictionaryGirl_ said:
Oooh, I've been interested in this as well. Can you really get hired from just reading the books and practicing at home, or do you need some sort of credential? Because I make a mean mixed drink, but I don't have any papers to back it up.


It's like any other hardcore job. Just read the books, practice at home. Then show off your skills during the interview.


Errr...you don't know what you're talking about.



sure he does!

Goob

Goob

Hatboro, PA
March 2004

MAR 23, 2006 12:11 PM

Clov said:
Imagine the booze you could buy with that $500 and the fun you could have with that two weeks. biggrin



Damn, wish I'd thought of that.

I spent $300 and it took 4 years for the "certificate" to pay off. Honestly, I did learn a lot in the class but it really didn't help me get a bartending job. Well... helped a little tiny bit. 4 years later.

Inks

Inks

Sarasota, FL
June 2005

MAR 23, 2006 02:31 PM

i have a bartending degree from a school... and honestly all it does is looks good on a resume...

they want real experince from a bar...

but if you have server experince they like that and they are more willing to do it if you have both the degree and the server exp...

datsun

datsun

Richmond, CA
October 2004

MAR 23, 2006 03:12 PM

Digitaltides said:
i have a bartending degree from a school... and honestly all it does is looks good on a resume...

they want real experince from a bar...

but if you have server experince they like that and they are more willing to do it if you have both the degree and the server exp...


or you could just get a serving job, then ask to barback and get trained up. I learned by doing, and though I can't make all kinds of fancy drinks, I'm more likely to get another job tending bar than someone who came from a bartending school, mostly because I can handle the rush without getting flustered, and I don't act like a know-it-all (most people I've encountered from schools tend to think they know what they're doing after bartending school, but really, they are only able to make fancy drinks on a slow shift).

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

MAR 23, 2006 04:21 PM

You know a good place to start if you can? Any B.D.'s Monoglian BBQ that has a bar, because you can start as a server train as a bartender, get one or two bartending shifts a week. You won't get the tips that most bartenders do, because people generally don't sit at the bar unless the place is packed, but you'll get the same wage as the kitchen and cook staff, rather than a server's wage, plus tip share, plus any tips you do get.

sixbysix

sixbysix

United Kingdom
December 2004

MAR 23, 2006 04:22 PM

Apparently an excellent way to meet women, so i'm told.

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

MAR 23, 2006 11:18 PM

Take all the money you considered spending on bartender school and use it to buy the most expensive bottle of scotch you can find.

GO.

datsun

datsun

Richmond, CA
October 2004

MAR 24, 2006 11:10 AM

Lemonkid said:
Take all the money you considered spending on bartender school and use it to buy the most expensive bottle of scotch you can find.

GO.


this is a smart man.

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