lowroller said:
I wonder how many of these guys or girls (who think they're ugly) have depression. I've noticed depression has a way of warping people's perception of themselves.
By "depression" I don't mean being emo. They're obviously not the same thing.
Well speaking as a manic-depressive (with more of a tendency towards depression) I do know that at times it has some influence but in my case it was not the primary motivator of episodes of depression. Very rare in fact since while depressed I rarely thought of myself as being "ugly" more just too "unusual" or annoying to be liked by women.
lowroller said:
I wonder how many of these guys or girls (who think they're ugly) have depression. I've noticed depression has a way of warping people's perception of themselves.
By "depression" I don't mean being emo. They're obviously not the same thing.
Well speaking as a manic-depressive (with more of a tendency towards depression) I do know that at times it has some influence but in my case it was not the primary motivator of episodes of depression. Very rare in fact since while depressed I rarely thought of myself as being "ugly" more just too "unusual" or annoying to be liked by women.
I hope no one is reading this the wrong way. I'm not saying feeling ugly will make someone depressed or that all depressed people think they're ugly .. I was merely saying I've known several people who are actually very attractive and think they're ugly .. and they had depression.
But yeah .. maybe the feelings we all have from day to day (about ourselves) are magnified when you have depression.
lowroller said:
I wonder how many of these guys or girls (who think they're ugly) have depression. I've noticed depression has a way of warping people's perception of themselves.
By "depression" I don't mean being emo. They're obviously not the same thing.
Well speaking as a manic-depressive (with more of a tendency towards depression) I do know that at times it has some influence but in my case it was not the primary motivator of episodes of depression. Very rare in fact since while depressed I rarely thought of myself as being "ugly" more just too "unusual" or annoying to be liked by women.
I hope no one is reading this the wrong way. I'm not saying feeling ugly will make someone depressed or that all depressed people think they're ugly .. I was merely saying I've known several people who are actually very attractive and think they're ugly .. and they had depression.
But yeah .. maybe the feelings we all have from day to day (about ourselves) are magnified when you have depression.
lowroller said:
I wonder how many of these guys or girls (who think they're ugly) have depression. I've noticed depression has a way of warping people's perception of themselves.
By "depression" I don't mean being emo. They're obviously not the same thing.
not wanting to sound like a ass. But what would you say is the differance between depressed guys and emo guys.?
hadees said:
To be honest though I don't think I am ugly, but I this one time this really ugly girl called me ugly and that hurt. I would have told her she would be lucky to even fuck a guy who looks like me when she is so hideous but she was on the Girl's Rugby team and it was their party and I didn't feel like possibly getting the shit kicked out of me by the Guy's Rugby team
If I were you I'd be more worried about the girls' rugby team beating the shit out of you.
hadees said:
To be honest though I don't think I am ugly, but I this one time this really ugly girl called me ugly and that hurt. I would have told her she would be lucky to even fuck a guy who looks like me when she is so hideous but she was on the Girl's Rugby team and it was their party and I didn't feel like possibly getting the shit kicked out of me by the Guy's Rugby team
If I were you I'd be more worried about the girls' rugby team beating the shit out of you.
Eh, there's no doubt that I'm ugly. I wasn't always ugly and I could un-uglify myself by getting to the gym more but I'd rather spend that time on my family, school, and work.
I'm in school with a bunch of folks who are younger and sometimes tend to focus on my appearance or age. Sometimes the girls start of thinking that I must be some old perv but when they realize that I'm far more interested in what they got for #19 than whether they happen to be a boy or a girl everything generally works out.
I've heard that self confidence is attractive before, but I've also heard that so is a sense of humour, and self deprication can be funny. I go for option 2 because I hate even skating the line of arrogance.
When a lot of girls you know talk about how hot guys number 1-7 are, and you are nothing like anything of them, it tends to put you in a certain place of self worth and you come to realize that you must be #35 on the same scale as those first 7 dudes.
Coi said:
Looks count, but they just don't matter that much (unless you have a career in the fashion or entertainment industry).
Instead of worrying about your haircut or your nose, worry more about how you treat other people. I'd rather share this planet with six billion civil human beings than six billion beauty pageant contestants.
Coi said:
Looks count, but they just don't matter that much (unless you have a career in the fashion or entertainment industry).
Instead of worrying about your haircut or your nose, worry more about how you treat other people. I'd rather share this planet with six billion civil human beings than six billion beauty pageant contestants.
Now if only everyone else felt that way. I happen to agree though. It's a nice sentiment.
Coi said:
Looks count, but they just don't matter that much (unless you have a career in the fashion or entertainment industry).
Instead of worrying about your haircut or your nose, worry more about how you treat other people. I'd rather share this planet with six billion civil human beings than six billion beauty pageant contestants.
yea but how many would you actually be attracted to?
because 'i would share the planet with you' is not nearly as apealing as 'youre totally hot. i wanna put up with your immature bullshit'.
and i know focusing on your looks isnt the most important thing, but when it comes down to it, how people initially treat you (before they get to know you) is based largely on your looks. so it does matter. and that does affect how you view yourself
*im not trying to be a dick to Coi here, this is just a general statement
Coi said:
Looks count, but they just don't matter that much (unless you have a career in the fashion or entertainment industry).
Instead of worrying about your haircut or your nose, worry more about how you treat other people. I'd rather share this planet with six billion civil human beings than six billion beauty pageant contestants.
I, personally, would rather share my bed with six billion beauty pageant contestants.
Coi said:
Looks count, but they just don't matter that much (unless you have a career in the fashion or entertainment industry).
Instead of worrying about your haircut or your nose, worry more about how you treat other people. I'd rather share this planet with six billion civil human beings than six billion beauty pageant contestants.
I, personally, would rather share my bed with six billion beauty pageant contestants.
You won't be getting much of the blanket on a cold night, though. That's the price you pay for your nights of wild hedonistic sex orgies!
Coi said:A storefront full of cuddly sock monkeys will grab my attention, but if I enter and find that they sell turd balls on toothpicks, I'm walking out.
Coi said:
A good-looking person will get my attention first, but they will not keep it if they don't have anything else to offer. A storefront full of cuddly sock monkeys will grab my attention, but if I enter and find that they sell turd balls on toothpicks, I'm walking out.
[Edited on Feb 07, 2006 by Coi]
"And her smile's an 'open' sign on an abandoned store."
DrStinkypants said:
yea but how many would you actually be attracted to?
Very, very few.
because 'i would share the planet with you' is not nearly as apealing as 'youre totally hot. i wanna put up with your immature bullshit'. and i know focusing on your looks isnt the most important thing, but when it comes down to it, how people initially treat you (before they get to know you) is based largely on your looks. so it does matter. and that does affect how you view yourself
It only affects you if you let it. If someone has an extreme facial disfigurement, I'll consider that a valid reason for why people find them physically repulsive. I think anyone else is just using it as an excuse.
A good-looking person will get my attention first, but they will not keep it if they don't have anything else to offer. A storefront full of cuddly sock monkeys will grab my attention, but if I enter and find that they sell turd balls on toothpicks, I'm walking out.
BleakRonin
Woodridge, IL
October 2003
FEB 07, 2006 04:00 AM