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susannah_breslin

I'm lost

June 2005

JAN 24, 2006 05:18 PM

CULTURE: The Revolution Has Been Pornified

The Boston Globe declares the end of times upon "The Pornification of America." As it turns out, actors are having sex in art-house films, girls just want to be porn stars, and porn--porn, people!--is everywhere. As part of the impending X-rated apocalypse, the Globe interviews anti-porn, porn-obsessed porn pundit Pamela Paul, author of the porny titled: Pornified. For her book, Paul interviewed a whopping 100 porn watchers on their pornographic feelings and came to the conclusion that porn is bad. Then, another author steps forward to blame it all on Madonna, feminists, and the religious right.

In the view of Cynthia Eller, author of ''Am I a Woman? A Skeptic's Guide to Gender," Madonna was ''a pivotal figure" in this transformation of popular entertainment into something that often resembles soft-core porn. ''I remember at the time being confused by this idea that acting like a porn star, acting out porn fantasies, was somehow empowering for women," says Eller.

She speculates that the current climate is partly ''a backlash to feminism, a way of protecting male egos, and men insisting on retaining a power structure sexually if they can't retain it in areas of employment and parenting and so forth. It's a way to hang on to a male-dominated paradigm."

But Eller says there is plenty of blame to go around. She and Pamela Paul point also to a schism in the women's movement several decades ago. Some feminists campaigned against pornography, but others viewed that as tantamount to censorship, or did not want to be perceived as anti-men. It divided the women's movement, they say, at a moment when it could have decisively changed the national dialogue on pornography.

Porn in the USA?

Eller also contends that the ''conservative right, in its eagerness to keep sexuality forbidden, is really just stoking the fire of an appetite for porn, for naughtiness, for the whole lust for sexual transgression." She maintains that if conservative forces were to ''give up their repressive game where sex is concerned," the mainstream manifestations of porn will lose their appeal to a lot of people.

Telltale

USA

May 2004

JAN 24, 2006 05:36 PM

Eller also contends that the ''conservative right, in its eagerness to keep sexuality forbidden, is really just stoking the fire of an appetite for porn, for naughtiness, for the whole lust for sexual transgression." She maintains that if conservative forces were to ''give up their repressive game where sex is concerned," the mainstream manifestations of porn will lose their appeal to a lot of people.

So fucking true.

Would you still have snuck out of the house late at night if your parents gave you a late enough curfew and were cool with you hanging out with your friends?

Benhamin

East Lansing, MI

December 2005

JAN 24, 2006 06:03 PM

Definitely read the original article off the website. It paints a more accurate picture of the different viewpoints and the reasons behind a percieved 'pornification'.
Personally, I'm not that worried. If people begin to look more objectively(and honestly) at sexuality, free from irrational fears created out of ignorance, there are a lot of positives that can come from this.

shacolwal

Waite Park, MN

February 2004

JAN 24, 2006 06:08 PM

I love porn.

hadees

Austin, TX

December 2003

JAN 24, 2006 06:16 PM

SmilesAndWarmth said:
I concluded a long time ago that porn is good.
I guess Pamela Paul and I will just have to agree to disagree.

Porn is good, Prostitution is even better. Why can't it be like in the past, it always was happening, people just didn't really talk about it.

pmonkeyEsquire

Detroit, MI

May 2004

JAN 24, 2006 06:25 PM

Porn is no longer underground. Jenna Jameson on Leno, P. Hilton sucking cock and we still love her. Perhaps this is the "free love" generation coming home to roost. Is it a sign that we are admitting our love for porn? that "mainstreem" movies only make a fourth of what the porn industry makes? Is this good? I don't know, but I guess it is. Maybe it is a sign of society becoming more honest and more willing to admit its failings/desires. In teh 50s, you said you liekd porn, you were ostracized. Yet, even then Bud Abbott and Lou Costello were monitored by the FBI for their extensive porn collections...

It is true; the way to fame is having an "underground" porn film show up on the internet.

Sock Monkey says good! we fuck. we like to fuck. we fuck better than you. let the money roll in...

[Edited on Jan 24, 2006 9:22PM]

pmonkeyEsquire

Detroit, MI

May 2004

JAN 24, 2006 06:27 PM

To add! I bet more people could identify Ron Jeremy than name a Supreme Court judge.

bairdduvessa

Centerville, MA

April 2005

JAN 24, 2006 06:40 PM

mmmmmm porn

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ

January 2004

JAN 24, 2006 06:47 PM

Eller also contends that the ''conservative right, in its eagerness to keep sexuality forbidden, is really just stoking the fire of an appetite for porn, for naughtiness, for the whole lust for sexual transgression." She maintains that if conservative forces were to ''give up their repressive game where sex is concerned," the mainstream manifestations of porn will lose their appeal to a lot of people.

So fucking true.

Would you still have snuck out of the house late at night if your parents gave you a late enough curfew and were cool with you hanging out with your friends?

No, and I never did, because they did exactly as you just described..

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ

January 2004

JAN 24, 2006 06:50 PM

..and Pamela Paul is such a pornstar name.

pmonkeyEsquire

Detroit, MI

May 2004

JAN 24, 2006 06:52 PM

Every gang bang I see, Sirpsychosexy's in it!

SirPsychoSexy

Ridgewood, NJ

January 2004

JAN 24, 2006 07:05 PM

Keep your dirty scock monkey love away from me.

Yes, I spelled it right..

Kleio

HOPEFUL

Winona, MN

JAN 24, 2006 07:14 PM

pmonkeyEsquire said:
To add! I bet more people could identify Ron Jeremy than name a Supreme Court judge.

Yes, but according to imdb.com (which is always right!) Ron Jeremy has nearly 1000 movies (pornographic or not) accredited to him, whether he's simply appearing, fully acting, directing or whatnot. That's a movie for every Suicide Girl, and then some.

Plus he's qualified to teach High School! Who wouldn't love Ron Jeremy?

Additionally, I heard today that Freud once said that the only kind of unhealthy sex life is one completely devoid of it. So pornography actually benefits us!

MC_escher

Irvine, CA

May 2003

JAN 24, 2006 07:24 PM

the Japanese will get there first.

alpha_hazard

Fort Collins, CO

April 2004

JAN 24, 2006 07:35 PM

wow, it turns out I like porn because the religious right told me not to and because I like to dominate women. Thank you for that incredible insight. Honestly, when will people stop blaming censorship and taboo for our problems and just admit they like to watch women give farm animals blowjobs?

seanvegas

Lincoln, NE

December 2004

JAN 24, 2006 09:18 PM

Yay, I'm going to watch porn tonight!!!

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH

April 2004

JAN 24, 2006 09:24 PM

Enudjhe said:
Would you still have snuck out of the house late at night if your parents gave you a late enough curfew and were cool with you hanging out with your friends?

Well, you wouldn't have had to sneak out of the house, because you could've stayed out. I don't understand your point.

Maraxia

United Kingdom

March 2005

JAN 25, 2006 05:49 AM

I think its the entire "if you arent allowed something, it automatically becomes more appealing" argument.

Oren

United Kingdom

January 2006

JAN 25, 2006 06:02 AM

ClioLune said:
Additionally, I heard today that Freud once said that the only kind of unhealthy sex life is one completely devoid of it. So pornography actually benefits us!

So is pornography the same thing as a sex life?

Rosscoe

I'm lost

March 2005

JAN 25, 2006 09:27 AM

Inamourada_Flux said:

ClioLune said:
Additionally, I heard today that Freud once said that the only kind of unhealthy sex life is one completely devoid of it. So pornography actually benefits us!

So is pornography the same thing as a sex life?

hehe, burn.

Besides i cant say i hold much value in alot of the words Freud spoke.

Toole

United Kingdom

October 2005

JAN 25, 2006 09:46 AM

Inamourada_Flux said:

ClioLune said:
Additionally, I heard today that Freud once said that the only kind of unhealthy sex life is one completely devoid of it. So pornography actually benefits us!

So is pornography the same thing as a sex life?

hehe, burn.

Besides i cant say i hold much value in alot of the words Freud spoke.

Well, given he's been mostly discredited nowadays, you really shouldn't!

mydogfarted

Waldwick, NJ

June 2003

JAN 25, 2006 11:13 AM

alpha_hazard said:
wow, it turns out I like porn because the religious right told me not to and because I like to dominate women.

I'm in it for the boobs.

Calypso

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JAN 25, 2006 11:18 AM

SirPsychoSexy said:

Eller also contends that the ''conservative right, in its eagerness to keep sexuality forbidden, is really just stoking the fire of an appetite for porn, for naughtiness, for the whole lust for sexual transgression." She maintains that if conservative forces were to ''give up their repressive game where sex is concerned," the mainstream manifestations of porn will lose their appeal to a lot of people.

So fucking true.

Would you still have snuck out of the house late at night if your parents gave you a late enough curfew and were cool with you hanging out with your friends?

No, and I never did, because they did exactly as you just described..

Yeah, and look at you now...hoodlum.

[Edited on Jan 25, 2006 by Calypso]

llouys

Brazil

August 2003

JAN 26, 2006 03:47 AM

pmonkeyEsquire said:
To add! I bet more people could identify Ron Jeremy than name a Supreme Court judge.

Probably true, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that particular state of affairs might not be totally awesome.

I mean, it's sort of awesome.

Nah, it's awesome.

Mr_Zero

I'm lost

September 2005

JAN 26, 2006 03:51 AM

BOOBS NOT BOMBS!!!

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