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MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

JAN 23, 2006 05:24 PM

American Idol is a guilty pleasure for millions of TV viewers (including me) - last Tuesday's audition show even drew a whopping 35.5 million viewers. But some of the comments that Idol judges made during those auditions have angered the gay-rights group GLAAD found two comments disrespectful, though they have not (contrary to some news reports) labeled the show "homophobic." The controversial remarks were made by Simon Cowell, who told one male hopeful to "wear a dress," and Randy Jackson, who asked another male whether he was a girl. In response, GLAAD has said:

"GLAAD is reaching out to the show's producers to discuss our concerns and the concerns of community members and allies who have contacted us about this matter." Damon Romine, Entertainment Media Director, January 19

"The real offense here was in the producer's decision to add insult to injury by turning a contestant's gender expression into the butt of a joke." Damon Romine, Entertainment Media Director, on January 20.

"Last week we heard and voiced concerns about the Jan. 18 edition of American Idol — specifically, the producers' decision to turn a contestant's gender expression into the butt of a joke. We've spoken with Fox and have entered into what we hope will be a productive, ongoing conversation about the show's representation and discussion of sexual orientation and gender expression." Damon Romine, Entertainment Media Director, on January 23.

Short

Short

Sacramento, CA
September 2005

JAN 23, 2006 06:08 PM

bad joke alert!

SPOILERS! (Click to view)

i'm really GLAAD i hate that show!

Somnia

somnia

Victoria, BC
October 2005

JAN 23, 2006 06:10 PM

*According to the link that second comment was made by 'Jackson'.

alpha_hazard

alpha_hazard

Fort Collins, CO
April 2004

JAN 23, 2006 06:11 PM

How did Clay Aiken escape Cowell's scrutinous gay-dar?

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

JAN 23, 2006 06:12 PM

somnia said:
*According to the link that second comment was made by 'Jackson'.



My mistake, I'll fix it.

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

JAN 23, 2006 06:14 PM

Isn't Simon Cowell gay?

AceTracer

acetracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

JAN 23, 2006 06:18 PM

GLAAD is the biggest bunch of pansies ever to form an acronym, except maybe PETA. They have absolutely no sense of humor and bitch and moan about every little minor infraction. This is the same organization that blasted Basic Instinct for featuring a bisexual murderer.

Cry me a river.

fictionalsounds

fictionalsounds

Alva, OK
April 2004

JAN 23, 2006 06:23 PM

am i supposed to laugh at the fact that you called GLAAD the "biggest bunch of pansies?"

whatever

Drusylla

Drusylla

Mesa, AZ
May 2005

JAN 23, 2006 06:24 PM

AceTracer said:
GLAAD is the biggest bunch of pansies ever to form an acronym, except maybe PETA. They have absolutely no sense of humor and bitch and moan about every little minor infraction. This is the same organization that blasted Basic Instinct for featuring a bisexual murderer.

Cry me a river.



Some people just aren't happy if they aren't bitching.

TeeJay

TeeJay

United Kingdom
February 2003

JAN 23, 2006 06:27 PM

mamet said:
Isn't Simon Cowell gay?



Simon Cowell understands why people think he's gay. He says "I watch myself on TV and I do seem so gay. I really am straight but I get asked that a lot." But fellow American Idol judge Paula Abdul laughs, "he's been fighting over my lace dress." Courtesy of Heat Magazine

(dated 17th Sep 2002, from here: http://www.myvillage.co.uk/pages/celebs-simoncowell.htm


His gf Terri Seymour

[Edited on Jan 24, 2006 by TeeJay]

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

JAN 23, 2006 06:30 PM

homophobia is a pattern of behavior...not a few remarks on a crappy television show.

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

JAN 23, 2006 06:33 PM

Cash said:
homophobia is a pattern of behavior...not a few remarks on a crappy television show.



Yes. The whole point of the first few episodes of that show is to insult the contestants in any way possible. And these remarks seem very minor to me. It just comes across as nit-picking.

AceTracer

acetracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

JAN 23, 2006 06:35 PM

fictionalsounds said:
am i supposed to laugh at the fact that you called GLAAD the "biggest bunch of pansies?"


I didn't intend for it to be funny, so I don't know why you would think you should laugh.

Drusylla said:
Some people just aren't happy if they aren't bitching.


The problem is that just like any group that bitches and moans too often (many organizations are guilty of this) you eventually lose your relevancy, and your condemnations don't mean as much when it truly matters.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

JAN 23, 2006 06:43 PM

MrTom said:

mamet said:
Isn't Simon Cowell gay?



I thought he was just british.



There's a difference?

[Edited on Jan 23, 2006 by Cash]

Rebel

Rebel

Simi Valley, CA
March 2005

JAN 23, 2006 06:53 PM

Im sorry, but the guy they were talking about when Randy asked him if he was a girl, LOOKED like a girl. My friend in Denver worked with him and his band mate thought he was a chick too.

zenFish

zenFish

Vancouver, BC
August 2004

JAN 23, 2006 06:53 PM

Cash said:

MrTom said:

mamet said:
Isn't Simon Cowell gay?



I thought he was just british.



There's a difference?

[Edited on Jan 23, 2006 by Cash]



*rimshot*



starguitar

starguitar

Canada
August 2004

JAN 23, 2006 06:56 PM

AceTracer said:
GLAAD is the biggest bunch of pansies ever to form an acronym, except maybe PETA. They have absolutely no sense of humor and bitch and moan about every little minor infraction. This is the same organization that blasted Basic Instinct for featuring a bisexual murderer.

Cry me a river.



As annoyed as you might have been, I have absolutely no doubt that there were many people who were offended by that segment (which I saw as it was happening). Even I found it offensive. They were completely exploiting that contestant for shock value and comedy. And don't let me hear anyone say that he was "asking for it" because he dressed and acted in a feminine way. That's his choice.

I wonder how many of us would think, "well I wish the Civil rights movement had shut it's big mouth for a while back i nthe 60s and 70s"? It's up to groups like GLAAD to open up public dialogue about these incidents, which is just what they are proposing to do in this case.
This is especially called for when the negative portrayal of this contestant (Zachary, if I recall) is shown to millions of mainstream television viewers in a manner that makes it seem acceptable.

[Edited on Jan 23, 2006 8:55PM]

troglodyte

troglodyte

Victoria, BC
May 2003

JAN 23, 2006 07:03 PM

mamet said:
Isn't Simon Cowell gay?


Aren't all the men involved in American Idol gay?

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

JAN 23, 2006 07:06 PM

They were completely exploiting that contestant for shock value and comedy.



They do that every season with the people they invite to perform for the judges even though they can't sing. It's just as bad every time regardless of the reason the person is being mocked.

And I don't like the word homophobic (I mean it should mean fear of things that are the same, right?). I wish it'd get replaced by something better.

SinisterMike

SinisterMike

Buffalo, NY
June 2004

JAN 23, 2006 07:07 PM

Well the boy that randy was refering to was quite femine, and he was wearing ALL girls clothes. I had to do a double take myself. The craziest thing was that the boy was complaining that everyone confused him or being a girl. Silly. The Cowell comment was rude, I was a little agro about it. The show is like a train wreck, you dont want to but you cant help watching.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

JAN 23, 2006 07:07 PM

starguitar said:
As annoyed as you might have been, I have absolutely no doubt that there were many people who were offended by that segment (which I saw as it was happening). Even I found it offensive. They were completely exploiting that contestant for shock value and comedy. And don't let me hear anyone say that he was "asking for it" because he dressed and acted in a feminine way. That's his choice.



And yet... it's perfectly okay to exploit immigrants for shock value and comedy? whatever



[Edited on Jan 23, 2006 by _DictionaryGirl_]

troglodyte

troglodyte

Victoria, BC
May 2003

JAN 23, 2006 07:09 PM

_DictionaryGirl_ said:

starguitar said:
As annoyed as you might have been, I have absolutely no doubt that there were many people who were offended by that segment (which I saw as it was happening). Even I found it offensive. They were completely exploiting that contestant for shock value and comedy. And don't let me hear anyone say that he was "asking for it" because he dressed and acted in a feminine way. That's his choice.



And yet, it's perfectly okay to exploit immigrants for shock value and comedy? whatever



[Edited on Jan 23, 2006 by _DictionaryGirl_]


Oh, please, he exploited himself.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

JAN 23, 2006 07:13 PM

troglodyte said:

_DictionaryGirl_ said:

starguitar said:
As annoyed as you might have been, I have absolutely no doubt that there were many people who were offended by that segment (which I saw as it was happening). Even I found it offensive. They were completely exploiting that contestant for shock value and comedy. And don't let me hear anyone say that he was "asking for it" because he dressed and acted in a feminine way. That's his choice.



And yet, it's perfectly okay to exploit immigrants for shock value and comedy? whatever



[Edited on Jan 23, 2006 by _DictionaryGirl_]


Oh, please, he exploited himself.


Of course he did. All I'm saying is that they certainly didn't let him on that show because of his talent. I don't watch American Idol though, so I don't know if the person in question was a talented performer or not. Otherwise, it really sucks, but half that show is people being brought on to be humiliated for the amusement of the public. It's a Colloseum mentality that's never really left us.

starguitar

starguitar

Canada
August 2004

JAN 23, 2006 07:14 PM

troglodyte said:

_DictionaryGirl_ said:

starguitar said:
As annoyed as you might have been, I have absolutely no doubt that there were many people who were offended by that segment (which I saw as it was happening). Even I found it offensive. They were completely exploiting that contestant for shock value and comedy. And don't let me hear anyone say that he was "asking for it" because he dressed and acted in a feminine way. That's his choice.



And yet, it's perfectly okay to exploit immigrants for shock value and comedy? whatever



[Edited on Jan 23, 2006 by _DictionaryGirl_]


Oh, please, he exploited himself.



And even if he didn't, what would have been wrong with an immigrant's rights group (or whatever) speaking up to defend him?


[Edited on Jan 23, 2006 9:13PM]

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

JAN 23, 2006 07:17 PM

I'm sure that the kid on last Tuesday's show has been asked a thousand times a day for the past ten years whether he was male or female.

I was online chatting with someone (maybe the author of this article) when it first aired and it went something like this:

"What the hell?"
"I don't know."

Curiosity does not equal homophobia.

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