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Nelson said Asher told police that she and Ferrer used a hacksaw the next day to dismember the body of the 280-pound Lord and dumped it in Augusta, Maine.

Chitin said:
That's one of the shitty things about the law in this country: it is utterly, completely unfavorable to a professional dominatrix should the worst happen on her property. He probably had a heart attack and, knowing that she would probably get screwed legally and probably do some jail time, she panicked and made a mistake.

Chitin said:
That's one of the shitty things about the law in this country: it is utterly, completely unfavorable to a professional dominatrix should the worst happen on her property. He probably had a heart attack and, knowing that she would probably get screwed legally and probably do some jail time, she panicked and made a mistake.

Margot_Dent said:

dismembering a body is a wee bit more than "making a mistake"

crispy said:

Yeah, I'd definitely call taking a hacksaw to a body and disposing of it "a mistake".

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Subrosa said:

The hacksaw slipped, alright? Ten.... fifteen times. It happens.

Margot_Dent said:

dismembering a body is a wee bit more than "making a mistake"

Margot_Dent said:

dismembering a body is a wee bit more than "making a mistake"

Chitin said:

I didn't say it was a SMALL mistake. But put yourself in her position: you're stuck with a body that you are probably going to be blamed for, despite the fact that you didn't kill the guy, just because of your chosen profession. I think I would probably make some pretty rash, stupid decisions in that situation.

Subrosa said:

The hacksaw slipped, alright? Ten.... fifteen times. It happens.

Chitin said:

I didn't say it was a SMALL mistake. But put yourself in her position: you're stuck with a body that you are probably going to be blamed for, despite the fact that you didn't kill the guy, just because of your chosen profession. I think I would probably make some pretty rash, stupid decisions in that situation.

mamet said:

I can't tell you how many times I accidentally cut people up into tiny pieces and buried them piece by piece in remote areas throughout the continental US after they keeled over in my dungeon.

Dove said:

this is a rash, stupid decision that is going to get her in trouble, period. i would expect legal recourse to someone who just found a body and hacked it up before throwing it away. that man, however dead, had the right to proper disposal, and i'm sure his potential friends and family would have liked to know what happened to him. just because she found herself in a big pickle doesn't give her the right to decide what happens to somebody post-mortem.

Chitin said:

I didn't say it was a SMALL mistake. But put yourself in her position: you're stuck with a body that you are probably going to be blamed for, despite the fact that you didn't kill the guy, just because of your chosen profession. I think I would probably make some pretty rash, stupid decisions in that situation.

Dove said:

this is a rash, stupid decision that is going to get her in trouble, period. i would expect legal recourse to someone who just found a body and hacked it up before throwing it away. that man, however dead, had the right to proper disposal, and i'm sure his potential friends and family would have liked to know what happened to him. just because she found herself in a big pickle doesn't give her the right to decide what happens to somebody post-mortem.

Margot_Dent said:

wont autopsy show cause of death? also, if he was a repeat client, cant she show that she had a trusted history with him prior to CHOPPING HIM TO PIECES?

"A month later, Asher confessed to police following a two-hour interrogation, and that confession forms the basis for much of the state's case. But the interview was not taped, Page said, and the investigators bullied her into saying things that conformed to their theory of what happened.

"Michael Lord was never at Barbara Asher's place in July 2000," the defense lawyer said, "and certainly she didn't decide to chop up a body in a bathtub."

Forensic testing of the tub and Asher's car turned up none of Lord's DNA, Page said, nor did they reveal the presence of bleach or any other cleaning agent."

Margot_Dent said:

wont autopsy show cause of death? also, if he was a repeat client, cant she show that she had a trusted history with him prior to CHOPPING HIM TO PIECES?

surlyclown said:
Um, there's a rather large portion of the story missing, and it's found in the posted article:

Basically, the police have never found the body and there's no DNA evidence at her place linking her to the crime. They just have a 'confession' that was never even recorded. Something is fishy.

Chitin said:

No, it doesn't. I'm not arguing with you there. She did a shitty thing, and she's probably going to get punished for it. But it doesn't mean there aren't two sides to the story, and it CERTAINLY doesn't mean that there isn't something wrong with a society that would put her in that position in the first place.

crispy said:
I don't care how hard I was confronted or bullied by the police, I wouldn't just blurt out "we cut him up with a hacksaw" unless that was actually what had happened.