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SUICIDEGIRL

Florida, USA

DEC 26, 2005 01:00 PM

I don't know how many of you spend as much time on the internet as I do, but chances are, many of you do. Well, it appears that there is a growing trend in the recognition and treatment of internet addictions.



[S]pecialists estimate that 6 percent to 10 percent of the approximately 189 million Internet users in this country have a dependency that can be as destructive as alcoholism and drug addiction, and they are rushing to treat it.



However, some therapists and doctors are skeptical of this "disorder," which is now called onlineaholism. The typical profile of such a person? There really isn't one. However, many people are said to further gambling and porn addictions and to otherwise suffer from anxiety or depression.



One patient who was interviewed said that his symptoms included

intense cravings for the computer, lying about how much time he spends online, withdrawing from hobbies and social interactions, back pain and weight gain.



Help is said to be on the way, though, in the form of programs typically used to help curb chemical dependencies. These include 12-step programs and even in-patient services. In fact, patients are said to go through withdrawal syndromes.



Now, how many of you are signing up?

BraveArt

BraveArt

Los Angeles, CA
February 2004

DEC 26, 2005 01:13 PM

I will sign up, but only if I can do the whole 12 step program online.

Luzzie

Luzzie

United Kingdom
December 2005

DEC 26, 2005 01:59 PM

i would but i dont spend that much time online... whatever my back hurts too much,

:p thats a bad joke... but that is also scary... i thought i was just sad... but now i have a condition! Woo!

verucalovescandy

verucalovescandy

Ardmore, PA
July 2004

DEC 26, 2005 04:16 PM

wow.. i didn't know there would be a day where i had to face this.. haha..
my friends would totally say i have a problem..

Fleische

Fleische

I'm lost
August 2005

DEC 26, 2005 04:39 PM

Wonder If I'm going to have to sell my soul to a higher power. 8/

MissTyrios

MissTyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

DEC 26, 2005 05:17 PM

brvhrt said:
I will sign up, but only if I can do the whole 12 step program online.



From page 3 of the NYTimes article:

Some therapists and Internet addiction treatment centers offer online counseling, including at least one 12-step program for video game addicts, which is controversial. Critics say that although it may be a way to catch the attention of someone who needs face-to-face treatment, it is akin to treating an alcoholic in a brewery, mostly because Internet addicts need to break the cycle of living in cyberspace.

makeshiftman

makeshiftman

Edmonton, AB
December 2004

DEC 26, 2005 05:18 PM

There's only one cure for internet addiction; TV addiction, and i'm not prepared to go down that road again.

Noctua

Noctua

Palo Alto, CA
February 2004

DEC 26, 2005 05:33 PM

I say it's a plot by phamaceutical companies; they start a grassroots campaign calling the spending of time online an "illness" -- hey, you can cure illnesses with drugs! Why, we happen to have one just for such an illness right here....

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

DEC 26, 2005 05:39 PM

"Internet addiction" is just another way of saying "I don't understand what the internet is for". The internet is just a tool, and some people find that tool more useful than other people find it. It's like saying that you suffer from "music addiction" because you enjoy listening to music all day.

Quick, someone call Merck, there's a new wonder drug waiting to be patented. Call it Atonal: to curb cravings for ordered sound.

Gwendolyn

Gwendolyn

SUICIDEGIRL

Indiana, USA

DEC 26, 2005 05:42 PM

I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone would want to cure their internet addiction.

Solaris

Solaris

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

DEC 26, 2005 05:49 PM

getting a full time job pretty much cured me of my internet addiction, unfortunately. i would much rather sit online all day talking to people i don't know and will never meet than be serving the public!

pavlovsdog

pavlovsdog

Asheville, NC
May 2004

DEC 26, 2005 05:52 PM

What are you talking about! I don't have a problem!

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

DEC 26, 2005 05:57 PM

s5 said:
"Internet addiction" is just another way of saying "I don't understand what the internet is for". The internet is just a tool, and some people find that tool more useful than other people find it. It's like saying that you suffer from "music addiction" because you enjoy listening to music all day.



Well I think that's true to some extent, but just like music could become a problem if you'd rather put on your headphones than deal with people or your problems, the internet can be used as a means of escape -- and sometimes we really shouldn't be escaping.

James_

James_

United Kingdom
March 2003

DEC 26, 2005 06:08 PM

Fatality said:
In fact, patients are said to go through withdrawal syndromes.



Hmm. So, given that the withdrawal symptoms of most addictive drugs are the opposite of their primary effects, what are the Wd's of an internet addiction? sudden cravings for porn and wikipedia? going to bed at a reasonable hour? lack of desire to put images of your penis in sundry locations? God spare us from that horror! tongue

MrStitches

MrStitches

Sag Harbor, NY
November 2003

DEC 26, 2005 06:33 PM

Eh, the same people who tell me I spend too much time online are the same people who watch tv during every spare moment. The internet is at least less passive than tv.

Fatality

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

Florida, USA

DEC 26, 2005 07:00 PM

oyaji said:

s5 said:
"Internet addiction" is just another way of saying "I don't understand what the internet is for". The internet is just a tool, and some people find that tool more useful than other people find it. It's like saying that you suffer from "music addiction" because you enjoy listening to music all day.

Quick, someone call Merck, there's a new wonder drug waiting to be patented. Call it Atonal: to curb cravings for ordered sound.



It's possible to form a psychological dependency on anything.

While I think there's a little too much of a tendency to blame things on "disorders" that seem to be pseudo-scientific at best, I don't doubt that there are people who truly do need help to stop playing PS2 or listening to music or surfing the internet. If it helps a person to think of his or her internet habits as an "internet addicition" and that is part of the process of forming more reasonable habits, what difference does it make?



Right. I think a psychological addiction can be formed to nearly anything. I know that I (and several other suicide girls) would say that we are addicted to pulling out our hair. While that may seem ridiculous, sometimes it takes up hours of time and interferes with other obligations and duties. That is exactly what makes up the crux of an addiction versus a habit, in my opinion. An addiction is an attachment whose existence interferes with your daily routine in a harmful way; you start to neglect family, friends, obligations, jobs, personal hygeine, etc. While I would in no way say that this is a physical addiction, I think that it can be labelled an addiction simply in that people may need help to overcome the negative effects of their repetitive actions.

crucifiedalien

crucifiedalien

I'm lost
February 2004

DEC 26, 2005 07:16 PM

can't they at LEAST come up with a better name that "onlineaholism"?

i mean, jesus...i hear that and i dismiss it right off the bat...

Fatality

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

Florida, USA

DEC 26, 2005 07:22 PM

Oh, what I meant by physical addiction would be just that you wouldn't necessarily go through something like a heroin addict would. Sorry if I was unclear...

And it is exactly the loss of will that comes into play here, you're right.

daniofthedead

daniofthedead

Philadelphia, PA
June 2004

DEC 26, 2005 07:33 PM

god i need it. my family has thought i was sick since we first got AOL when i was in 5th grade. ive been glued since then eeek

StickyRice

StickyRice

San Francisco, CA
January 2003

DEC 26, 2005 07:43 PM

Fatality said:

[S]pecialists estimate that 6 percent to 10 percent of the approximately 189 million Internet users in this country have a dependency that can be as destructive as alcoholism and drug addiction, and they are rushing to treat it.



The key there, I guess, is that they, the supposed addicts, are "rushing to treat" their so-called condition, rather than succumbing to other peoples' hectoring. If a person can't control him/herself enough to turn on and off the computer at will, I'd say help is in order, but only if the person wants help, and it's become a legitimate problem in the person's own view.

I do find annoying how quick experts are to transfer the addiction paradigm from physical substances to modes of behavior -- and then censure that behavior. Not that the same general personality traits don't often apply, just that "addiction" is a handy weapon for a person to have if somebody is doing allegedly too much of one activity or another that one doesn't like or approve of.

A lot of people who spend hours online are just looking for community, for friends; whether their supposed tendency to anxiety/depression came first or second is rather chicken/egg, I think, depending on the person.

Kittie

Kittie

HOPEFUL

Cranberry Township, PA

DEC 26, 2005 07:47 PM

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM! LEAVE ME ALONE!

FrankMask

FrankMask

Saint Paul, MN
June 2003

DEC 26, 2005 08:37 PM

Gwendolyn said:
I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone would want to cure their internet addiction.



Eventually all the pron starts to look more or less the same.

darksmith

darksmith

Norway
July 2002

DEC 26, 2005 09:56 PM

Solaris said:
getting a full time job pretty much cured me of my internet addiction, unfortunately. i would much rather sit online all day talking to people i don't know and will never meet than be serving the public!



AMEN!

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

DEC 26, 2005 10:00 PM

I'm telling you all, it's not an addiction. I can quit whenever I want.



Just not right now. I'm talking on AIM and there's message boards and I'm getting music and stuff. I'm busy, you know? confused

photoline

photoline

Edmonton, AB
January 2005

DEC 26, 2005 10:24 PM

Why is everything that's ever been POPULAR also been labelled ADDICTIVE? Because the people who don't like a certain thing need a label to identify and then condemn it so you will conform to their ideals.

Because of the internet, I've interacted with 100's if not 1000's more people in 10 years than I might have in a lifetime.

Now excuse me while I go play the video slots while virtually fucking today's Suicide Girls.... robot robot robot

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