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katneko

katneko

Madison, WI
August 2003

DEC 13, 2005 10:17 AM

I was wondering why the Suicide Girl community (generally speaking) dislikes the camgirl community? Examples here, and here.

The way I figure it, we're all sex workers who are able to portray our individual personalities through pictures on the internet, so why the general dislike? Don't some SG's have webcams as well? I mean, I've been a camgirl since 2000 and a member here since 2003, and the similarities between the two communities are very apparent, and very frequent.

Thus, I am extremely curious why camgirls are considered "distasteful" around here. Can somebody give me a sensible reason for this?

EDIT: Oh, and don't spare my feelings, please. If sensible reasoning means I might get a bruised ego, I don't mind...just so long as the reason is a decent one. My curiosity outshines the sun, and I'll get over it. ;-)

[Edited on Dec 13, 2005 by katneko]

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

DEC 13, 2005 10:20 AM

I think you're reading too much into things.

katneko

katneko

Madison, WI
August 2003

DEC 13, 2005 10:21 AM

Shalome said:
I think you're reading too much into things.



I highly doubt it.

Koleeta

Koleeta

Los Angeles, CA
May 2003

DEC 13, 2005 10:23 AM

actually from those threads you posted it seemed like most of th SG community liked those camgirls.

i, myself, don't have an opinion on this. I've never watched a camgirl before.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

DEC 13, 2005 10:24 AM

katneko said:

Shalome said:
I think you're reading too much into things.



I highly doubt it.




Right, then, a thread from 2002 and a thread from 2004 about a specific camgirl in which over half the posts were positive mean that the current SG community in general dislikes all camgirls.

[Edited on Dec 13, 2005 by Shalome]

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

DEC 13, 2005 10:25 AM

Two threads in three years, the last in January of '04.
Seriously, put down the pitchforks, people.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

DEC 13, 2005 10:25 AM

BillHaverchuck said:
Two threads in three years, the last in January of '04.
Seriously, put down the pitchforks, people.



I know, right?

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

DEC 13, 2005 10:26 AM

I really doubt that the majority of the SG community dislikes camgirls.

TheJuanupsman

TheJuanupsman

Hopkins, MN
April 2004

DEC 13, 2005 10:28 AM

katneko said:

Shalome said:
I think you're reading too much into things.



I highly doubt it.



Well based on the evidence provided so far I have to agree with
Shalome. Two threads, one 3 years old and the other over a year old, and my own search for more examples, suggests that extreme indifference is more prevalent than disapproval. Until this thread I had never seen a single reference to cam girls on SG.

[Edited on Dec 13, 2005 by TheJuanupsman]

TheJuanupsman

TheJuanupsman

Hopkins, MN
April 2004

DEC 13, 2005 10:28 AM

BillHaverchuck said:
Two threads in three years, the last in January of '04.
Seriously, put down the pitchforks, people.



Heh, I type slow.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

DEC 13, 2005 10:29 AM

What's a camgirl?

And to say that all of the SGs are sex workers is pretty ridiculous. If I win a karaoke contest, that doesn't make me a professional musician.

poptard

poptard

United Kingdom
November 2003

DEC 13, 2005 10:34 AM

i dislike them

as well as cam guys

infact anyone with a camera who trys to take my picture i don't like

katneko

katneko

Madison, WI
August 2003

DEC 13, 2005 10:36 AM

BillHaverchuck said:
Two threads in three years, the last in January of '04.
Seriously, put down the pitchforks, people.



They were just examples, that I got off of another forum. (as an aside, I won't be able to link to the specific thread, because access to it is member-based -- you won't be able to see it unless you're a camgirl). So, I haven't actually searched for newer threads on SG, admittedly. I was just wondering if this was true or not.

Anyways, the forum linked above is intended as research for a book on camgirls -- how they came about, whats going on with the culture, etc. And in the thread, it asks why other communities dislike camgirls, and had links to those threads on SG. So, I was just asking -- no need to get your panties in a bunch.

Pitchforks? What about my original post suggested that I was out for blood? It's just a question. If there are SG's out there with relevent responses, please come forward. I don't mind honesty.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

DEC 13, 2005 10:38 AM

I've worked as a camgirl and of course I've worked on SG (not to mention some other types of sex work as well, woohoo!), to me they're both completely valid ways to make money, and can be used for artistic expression as well.

I'm willing to bet there are some people here (as there would be on any forum) who think it's acceptable to look down on certain types of sex workers (like camgirls or strippers) while thinking that something like SG is just fine, but those people don't speak for SG as a whole. Those people are, as the kids are saying these days, "idiots".

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

DEC 13, 2005 10:39 AM

NewYorkMatt said:
i don't like paying girls to make believe they like me.



I get what you're saying, but I bet some of the SGs pretend to like members too.

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

DEC 13, 2005 10:41 AM

Morgan said:

NewYorkMatt said:
i don't like paying girls to make believe they like me.



I get what you're saying, but I bet some of the SGs pretend to like members too.



But, but, but... she said she liked me....

wink

DullLifelessHair

DullLifelessHair

United Kingdom
November 2004

DEC 13, 2005 10:44 AM

Because the SG community is just a small reflection of the world at large? A somewhat selective and distorted reflection, but one none the less.

Everyone hates camgirls, they're a safe, easy and therefore socially acceptable target. There's only so much sexual frustration one can relieve by banging commands into a keyboard. I'm say jealousy comes into it too a bit.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

DEC 13, 2005 10:45 AM

Morgan said:

NewYorkMatt said:
i don't like paying girls to make believe they like me.



I get what you're saying, but I bet some of the SGs pretend to like members too.


I'm sure a lot of SGs are polite to people they may not like, but I don't think it's the same.

Koleeta

Koleeta

Los Angeles, CA
May 2003

DEC 13, 2005 10:48 AM

DullLifelessHair said:
I'm say jealousy comes into it too a bit.


What do you mean? I'm asking because maybe I'm thinking of jealousy in a way other than that which you are using it.

Are you saying some SG members/girls are jealous of camgirls and that explains the distaste?

[Edited on Dec 13, 2005 by Atlantis]

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

DEC 13, 2005 10:48 AM

Morgan said:

NewYorkMatt said:
i don't like paying girls to make believe they like me.



I get what you're saying, but I bet some of the SGs pretend to like members too.


thats it, christmas is cancelled.

katneko

katneko

Madison, WI
August 2003

DEC 13, 2005 10:48 AM

Clov said:
What's a camgirl?

And to say that all of the SGs are sex workers is pretty ridiculous. If I win a karaoke contest, that doesn't make me a professional musician.



A camgirl is a girl who has a webcam and interacts with the rest of the internet through webcam pictures and journal entries.

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A karaoke contest does not involve a contract, payment, or an implied obligation to keep active (through journal entries) on the site. I do know what you're saying though -- A Suicide Girl who takes one set and posts journal entries, motivated only by liking the site that much, is hardly a "professional" sex worker -- at least in mind, they arn't. But they do sign a contract and get paid for the set, do they not? Wether they are a novice or not, is insignifigant. Sex workers often start out as a novice.

katneko

katneko

Madison, WI
August 2003

DEC 13, 2005 10:50 AM

NewYorkMatt said:
i don't like paying girls to make believe they like me.




Don't ever go to a strip club, man. Those girls are the end-all be-all of providing fantasy.

Janie

Janie

Bowling Green, KY
March 2005
TheJuanupsman

TheJuanupsman

Hopkins, MN
April 2004

DEC 13, 2005 10:54 AM

Coi said:
I am 100% indifferent about camgirls.



I'm pretty sure that is the majority opinion around here.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

DEC 13, 2005 10:55 AM

I'd love to start doing cam stuff again, too bad I'm poor and my cam sucks...something really huge.

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