Sethy said:
See theres some of the problems, biking is great to stay in shape, but jogging or running would be more effective to get into it.
Weights also, if you are large all your doing is getting larger, unless you work in a feild where you need that bulk i would suggest switching the weights up to cardio. Chances are if you have been doing a lot of weight training you have a lot of muscle, just get the cardio to trim it up, muscle is hard to lose so by doing weights your ensuring you will never get smaller.
The racquetball though, that is some of the best excercise you can get, any sport where you must move a lot.
30 minutes a day wont stop people from being large, just obese, it will get them to a point where there health isn't at risk. Thats whats really important.
He should deffinitly NOT give up weights! Having muscle is very good for you. It helps get you in shape because it takes more calories just to keep it sitting there doing nothing. Fat is what poses a health problem. What the scale says is secondary. He might bulk up a little , he might not, it depends on his body.. but building muscle is good. Of course, cardio is good also, and yea. running, swimming or the elliptical would be more intense than biking (but variety is key).
What it comes down to, thought, (he's right) is diet. You have to use diet and exercise together whether you're trying to lose weight, maintain it, or just want to improve health. Whole grains, legumes, veggies, fuits, nuts and seeds. It's difficult to overeat with these things unless you're struffing your full stomach.
He *should* he has a lot already from weights 5 days a week, the cardio will keep existing muscles, you know, using your own weight as, well, weight, and will burn off fat.
Or atleast mix it so instead of 3-5 days of weights move it to 1-2 of weights and 2-3 of cardio.
In the spoiler below are 2 photos, one is a person who focused on weights and one is one who focused on cardio. Assuming you dont like dieting so you wont be nearly as toned as either examples which would you prefer? My advice was to that one person. In general weights are good, but not to lose weight.
Aw fuck, we got Sethy going on fat people again. This thread's gonna get bigger than my ass after a box of Pop-Tarts and a DVD box set of the Young Ones.
MisterSatan said:
Aw fuck, we got Sethy going on fat people again. This thread's gonna get bigger than my ass after a box of Pop-Tarts and a DVD box set of the Young Ones.
Thats quite a talent you have. Not many men would admit to stuffing breakfast pastries and movie collections up their b-kricks, let alone the sphincter fortitude required for such a task. Tonight I raise my glass to you, sir.
MollyMolly said:
On the other hand, I have seen packaged lunchmeat that said that the whole freakin' package was one serving. That would feed me for a week! A sandwich made with that much meat would be bigger than I am.
You talking about that razor thin shit? I forget the company name. That'd barely make a sandwich or even a sandwich and a half for me. Skimpy ass stuff that is.
Yes, that's the stuff. I would probably not use more than 2 - 3 slices, tops (and there are probably a dozen+ slices in even the really small "single-serving" packages). I just don't eat much. I don't count calories/servings or anything; I just don't get hungry very often, and when I do, I get full really quickly.
MisterSatan said:
Aw fuck, we got Sethy going on fat people again. This thread's gonna get bigger than my ass after a box of Pop-Tarts and a DVD box set of the Young Ones.
Thats quite a talent you have. Not many men would admit to stuffing breakfast pastries and movie collections up their b-kricks, let alone the sphincter fortitude required for such a task. Tonight I raise my glass to you, sir.
Sethy said:
He *should* he has a lot already from weights 5 days a week, the cardio will keep existing muscles, you know, using your own weight as, well, weight, and will burn off fat.
Or atleast mix it so instead of 3-5 days of weights move it to 1-2 of weights and 2-3 of cardio.
Cardio doesn't really keep muscle all that well... the only time I'd say it's a decent idea to skip weight training in favour of cardio is if you use resistance machines and turn it way up.
Fat loss would be much faster for someone doing both. I'm not for only doing weights.. both is best, AND diet. All three are important to health and weight issues. It;'s really not that hard to do, so I don't see why one should give up any of them.
Sethy said:
Or atleast mix it so instead of 3-5 days of weights move it to 1-2 of weights and 2-3 of cardio.
This confused me. He is saying he has plateaued and you are advising him to cut back on both his cardio and his weight lifting? Am I missing something?
Sethy said:
See theres some of the problems, biking is great to stay in shape, but jogging or running would be more effective to get into it.
Weights also, if you are large all your doing is getting larger, unless you work in a feild where you need that bulk i would suggest switching the weights up to cardio. Chances are if you have been doing a lot of weight training you have a lot of muscle, just get the cardio to trim it up, muscle is hard to lose so by doing weights your ensuring you will never get smaller.
The racquetball though, that is some of the best excercise you can get, any sport where you must move a lot.
30 minutes a day wont stop people from being large, just obese, it will get them to a point where there health isn't at risk. Thats whats really important.
The bike is transportation. While it may not be as good as running it is certainly better than driving. Even if I were capable of running 20-30 miles a day, I don't have the time. I bike 2-3 times (at least) faster than I run.
The weights are the lure. I enjoy them. They get me to the gym. And I am not putting on any bulk. Just keeping what I have toned. Besides the last time I cut the weight training I started to gain weight back. It is my understanding that weight training improves the effectiveness of cardio. Maybe this has changed but that's what the trainers keep telling me.
Anyway my point was that there is no one answer. Obviously I get as much or more exercise than many if not most of the thin people out there. So for me the real problem is diet. And my lack of willpower in regard to food. I know it. And I have made some changes. Just not enough.
Yes, exactly! I've been complaining about this for ages. I bought a pack of 2 cookies at school one day and read that one serving was like half a cookie. Am I the only one who doesn't eat half a cookie at a time?
Rosalyn
SUICIDEGIRL
Ontario, Canada
DEC 12, 2005 04:56 PM