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EndedBen

EndedBen

Grand Rapids, MI
August 2004

DEC 03, 2005 10:31 AM

Cheech said:
It could be because they're only talking about (trite, vapid, action-movie-esque, old) superhero comics rather than interesting (substantive, funny, compelling, recent) ones.



It could be that you have no idea what you're talking about.

CarrotJuice

CarrotJuice

Dublin, OH
January 2005

DEC 03, 2005 10:32 AM

Have you read A Child's Life as well? Good lordy midnight.

SomethingStupid

SomethingStupid

North Hollywood, CA
March 2004

DEC 03, 2005 10:46 AM

SuperNintendo said:

Cheech said:
It could be because they're only talking about (trite, vapid, action-movie-esque, old) superhero comics rather than interesting (substantive, funny, compelling, recent) ones.



It could be that you have no idea what you're talking about.


No, no, he's absolutely right. Look at the list of the "masters":

Lyonel Feininger (“The Kin-der-Kids”), George Herriman (“Krazy Kat”), Winsor McCay (“Little Nemo”), Milton Caniff (“Steve Canyon”), Charles Schulz (“Peanuts”), Jack Kirby (“Fantastic Four,” “X-Men”), Harvey Kurtzman (MAD), R. Crumb, Art Spiegelman (Maus), Chris Ware (Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid on Earth), and Gary Panter (“Jimbo”)


Clearly shows a bias towards superhero comics, doesn't it? When are we going to get over "trite, vapid, action-movie-esque, old" superhero bullshit like Maus and Jimmy Corrigan and find some comics with substance???

Okay, I'm done now. And yes, I do realize that Jack Kirby is listed there, but that's one person.

Cheech

Cheech

Portland, OR
January 2003

DEC 03, 2005 05:13 PM

TedKoppel said:

SuperNintendo said:

Cheech said:
It could be because they're only talking about (trite, vapid, action-movie-esque, old) superhero comics rather than interesting (substantive, funny, compelling, recent) ones.



It could be that you have no idea what you're talking about.


No, no, he's absolutely right. Look at the list of the "masters":

Lyonel Feininger (“The Kin-der-Kids”), George Herriman (“Krazy Kat”), Winsor McCay (“Little Nemo”), Milton Caniff (“Steve Canyon”), Charles Schulz (“Peanuts”), Jack Kirby (“Fantastic Four,” “X-Men”), Harvey Kurtzman (MAD), R. Crumb, Art Spiegelman (Maus), Chris Ware (Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid on Earth), and Gary Panter (“Jimbo”)


Clearly shows a bias towards superhero comics, doesn't it? When are we going to get over "trite, vapid, action-movie-esque, old" superhero bullshit like Maus and Jimmy Corrigan and find some comics with substance???

Okay, I'm done now. And yes, I do realize that Jack Kirby is listed there, but that's one person.



Okay, I guess I shoulda read the thing. I'm just used to being around people who ONLY talk about superhero comics... unlike their list.
(Do I give the impression as someone who's ALWAYS ranting? Cuz this was maybe my 10th Boards post in the past 6 months.)
You two were right, and I was wrong. It's still strange that they ignored women artists, which I guess is the original point.

SomethingStupid

SomethingStupid

North Hollywood, CA
March 2004

DEC 03, 2005 05:39 PM

Cheech said:
Okay, I guess I shoulda read the thing. I'm just used to being around people who ONLY talk about superhero comics... unlike their list.
(Do I give the impression as someone who's ALWAYS ranting? Cuz this was maybe my 10th Boards post in the past 6 months.)
You two were right, and I was wrong. It's still strange that they ignored women artists, which I guess is the original point.


Nah, the "ranting out of habit" comment comes from the fact that I know tons of people who like more literary comics. These people are frequently bitter. By the way, Warren Ellis has a forum set up where people can discuss non-superhero comics. I'm not sure of the address right now, but you can no doubt find it on Google. I thought that might be a good tool, since most comic forums only have a small segment of people who aren't discussing, say, House of M.

smithers_jones

smithers_jones

I'm lost
November 2003

DEC 03, 2005 05:46 PM

Hothead Paisan by Diane Dimassa was always a favorite of mine back in the day.

Cheech

Cheech

Portland, OR
January 2003

DEC 03, 2005 06:00 PM

TedKoppel said:

Cheech said:
Okay, I guess I shoulda read the thing. I'm just used to being around people who ONLY talk about superhero comics... unlike their list.
(Do I give the impression as someone who's ALWAYS ranting? Cuz this was maybe my 10th Boards post in the past 6 months.)
You two were right, and I was wrong. It's still strange that they ignored women artists, which I guess is the original point.


Nah, the "ranting out of habit" comment comes from the fact that I know tons of people who like more literary comics. These people are frequently bitter. By the way, Warren Ellis has a forum set up where people can discuss non-superhero comics. I'm not sure of the address right now, but you can no doubt find it on Google. I thought that might be a good tool, since most comic forums only have a small segment of people who aren't discussing, say, House of M.



Oh, well, I'm bitter, but not about comics.
Next time, I'll try 'n read the article/ big list first before I crack on people totally unassociated with it.

arik

arik

San Francisco, CA
OLD SKOOL

DEC 03, 2005 10:36 PM

chynna clugston-major!

Jamie_Trecker

Jamie_Trecker

Chicago, IL
January 2003

DEC 05, 2005 06:50 AM

Of all the people mentioned above only one — Marie Severin — comes close to being "great." Julie Doucet is a decent story-teller but no great shakes as an artist. I am surprised no-one mentioned Francoise Mouly or Marjane Satrapi, both of whom are quite good.

There are two truly great old-school female artists, though:
Ramona Fradon (Aquaman, many others)
Dale Messick (creator of Brenda Starr)

Both these women were not only trailblazers but influential stylists. Look at Fradon's work from the 50's and 60's — it's sublime stuff.

The creator of the Kewpie Dolls, Rose O'Neill, was also one of the greats, albeit someone few people recall today.

--jamie

McK

McK

United Kingdom
October 2004

DEC 05, 2005 07:40 AM

TedKoppel said:

Cheech said:
Okay, I guess I shoulda read the thing. I'm just used to being around people who ONLY talk about superhero comics... unlike their list.
(Do I give the impression as someone who's ALWAYS ranting? Cuz this was maybe my 10th Boards post in the past 6 months.)
You two were right, and I was wrong. It's still strange that they ignored women artists, which I guess is the original point.


Nah, the "ranting out of habit" comment comes from the fact that I know tons of people who like more literary comics. These people are frequently bitter. By the way, Warren Ellis has a forum set up where people can discuss non-superhero comics. I'm not sure of the address right now, but you can no doubt find it on Google. I thought that might be a good tool, since most comic forums only have a small segment of people who aren't discussing, say, House of M.




http://www.the-engine.net

He's also a member here.

gauss

gauss

I'm lost
September 2005

DEC 05, 2005 10:39 AM

I forgot dame darcy! meatcake is one of my all-time favorites, style and content.

Spaceboy

Spaceboy

Dallas, TX
October 2004

DEC 05, 2005 07:52 PM

This comic was pretty good

McK

McK

United Kingdom
October 2004

DEC 07, 2005 09:49 AM

Anissa said:
I third Chynna Glugston - Major.
The girl is bad. Do you hear me?
And she's everywhere!

Blue Monday
Scooter Girl <---- her titles

Hopeless Savages
Jingle Belle
The Atomics
Cut My Hair <----worked on

Not to mention doing work for Marvel and Dark Horse.

*snap snap snap* C'mon people catch up with the rest of the class.



biggrin




As an aside, she's dropped the "-Major" part as her and Guy divorced quite a while ago. smile

KMFCM

KMFCM

Peekskill, NY
September 2002

DEC 07, 2005 11:16 AM


on the other hand, there's tons of female manga artists

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