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Tate

Tate

United Kingdom
February 2003

NOV 21, 2005 03:02 AM

George Orwell 1984 here we are

Liante

Liante

SUICIDEGIRL

Kiribati

NOV 21, 2005 03:34 AM

I wish they'd left the picture as it was. Now it's fucking creepy. As a 6-year-old I probably wouldn't have noticed the cigarette but I would definitely have noticed a guy standing like that for no apparent reason. And it would have bugged my poor little kid brain out for days.

filmjedi

filmjedi

Brighton, MA
June 2004

NOV 21, 2005 04:44 AM

i am allergic and asthmatic to everything on the planet. i was nearly in the hospital last week for a really bad attack i had. I am 25. i love the smokling bans in boston. it means i can actually go places without

a. having to wash my clothes after leaving cause they stink of smoke.

b. i can breath.

i seriously used to have to sneak breaths in the local bars. nasty.

i can see shy it would appear to be weird, altering photos, but seriously, this is not like they erased the world trade center from diehard three, or took out he guns in E.T. this is far less insidious.

but i still see the point.......i personally blame adobe. they created photoshop. i also blame macdonalds everytime i see a fucking micky d's cofffee cup on the street....guess i am weird/

[Edited on Nov 21, 2005 7:45AM]

WonderWaffles

WonderWaffles

New York, NY
March 2005

NOV 21, 2005 09:15 AM

Sending the wrong message to kids?

Since when was the truth the wrong message?

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

NOV 21, 2005 11:05 AM

Plz don't let my child know that people smoke, kthx!

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

NOV 21, 2005 12:44 PM

MissTyrios said:

MrStitches said:

MissTyrios said:
I am honestly a torn about this. I am a smoker and I hate that I am a smoker and I generally support any effort to get kids not to smoke. Though at the same time, I went through a great deal of anti-smoking education and I knew what the consequences were and I still decided to start smoking when I was an otherwise very concientious and rule-abiding teenager. I don't think a children's book is the best place to feature a picture of a guy with a cigarette - at the same time, this is an old, classic book and it was illustrated by a man who clearly enjoyed smoking, in a time when smoking was much more ubiquitous. I don't think that altering the picture was borne so much out of a thought that seeing it would promote smoking, but more out of a move to take smoking out of daily life, a move that I generally support. But my historical respect and condemnation of any sort of revision of the past makes me want to oppose a move like this. I suppose that I sympathize with the move, but in the end...I would leave the picture as is.



When you get down to it though, It doesn't really accomplish anything. If a kid is going to start smoking because of one guy in one picture they were probably going to smoke anyhow.
I guess there is no real reason for it to bother me, but it does. A lot really.



But see, I don't see it as a catalyst for a kid to start smoking - I don't actually believe that a kid is going to look at the Goodnight Moon picture and decide to light up. I think the important thing is removing smoking and cigarettes from as many places as possible so as to reduce their presence overall and thus reduce their impact. But I don't mean necessarily "removing" cigarettes via photoshop or altered film, which is why I come down against this particular move. Overall, though, I think the less kids are exposed to smoking in general, the better.




I wonder if removing cigarttes in that sense really works though, or if it's just one of those things that sounds like it should have an effect, but doesn't. Especially the restrictions on cigarette advertising, and network TV's practical ban on people smoking on shows.

LeonardShelby

LeonardShelby

I'm lost
August 2005

NOV 21, 2005 12:54 PM

"spoiler alert: the kid says good night to the moon"

Gaa!

Now I won't even bother reading the book. Thanks a lot.

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

NOV 21, 2005 01:24 PM

benhasglasses said:
i am allergic and asthmatic to everything on the planet. i was nearly in the hospital last week for a really bad attack i had. I am 25. i love the smokling bans in boston. it means i can actually go places without

a. having to wash my clothes after leaving cause they stink of smoke.

b. i can breath.

i seriously used to have to sneak breaths in the local bars. nasty.

[Edited on Nov 21, 2005 7:45AM]



Great, but what does that have to do with getting rid of the cigarette in the photo?

MK47

MK47

United Kingdom
March 2005

NOV 21, 2005 04:15 PM

god bless the busyness of small minds..come on..what else they got to do apart from pay taxes wink

BraveArt

BraveArt

Los Angeles, CA
February 2004

NOV 22, 2005 04:28 AM

okay okay, allright, fine..so they want to take the ciggy out of the picture to tell kids that it's not kool to smoke cigarettes..allright..fine..totally lame..but fine..

so, instead of that stupid "new" photo with him holding nothing but air, and looking kind of pervy all of a sudden...


i suggest this wholesome and family-oriented replacement image:


there ya go..everyone happy now??

Doxie

Doxie

SUICIDEGIRL

Oregon, USA

NOV 23, 2005 01:50 PM

I know I sure as hell didn't notice that as a child. I don't know who would but... hey. whatever

Rosscoe

Rosscoe

I'm lost
March 2005

NOV 23, 2005 01:53 PM

Retarded.

Meridon

Meridon

I'm lost
September 2005

NOV 23, 2005 01:56 PM

If it took the children's publishing industry this many decades to notice, I doubt some toddler who's more interested in tasting or coloring on the book will.

That book is designed to knock the kid out with soothing repetition. They're never gonna even see the last page, let alone the back cover.

[Edited on Nov 23, 2005 by Meridon]

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