Lifestyle

TOPICS:

11/23/05

Previous

PAGE: 

1 ... 

273 | 274 | 275

 ... 954

Next

Previous

PAGE: 

1 | 2

Next

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

NOV 20, 2005 04:20 PM

Since its publication, the children's book "Goodnight Moon" (spoiler alert: the kid says good night to the moon) has included a photograph of the illustrator of the book, Clement Hurd, holding a cigarette. However, fearing that, somehow, a photograph of a guy taken more than 60 years ago will make your 2 year old want to fire up a Lucky, the photograph has been altered to remove the cigarette.



HarperCollins said it made the change to avoid the appearance of encouraging smoking and did so with the permission of the illustrator's estate. But Mr. Hurd's son, also a children's book illustrator and author, said he felt pressured to allow it. And the move has touched off something of a tempest in the nursery, with some children's booksellers expressing outrage. One has even mounted a campaign to have the original picture restored.

The photograph of Mr. Hurd cheerily grasping a cigarette between the fingers of his right hand has been on the book for at least two decades. Kate Jackson, the editor in chief of HarperCollins Children's Books, said it only recently came to her attention, at a meeting to discuss how to publicize the book's 60th anniversary in 2007.

"We had a lot of copies out on a table, and all of a sudden we realized that in the photo on the back of the jacket he was holding a cigarette," Ms. Jackson said. The company was about to reprint the hardcover and paperback editions, so "as a quick fix, we adjusted the photograph" to eliminate it.

"It is potentially a harmful message to very young kids," Ms. Jackson said, "and it doesn't need to be there." The publisher said it printed 20,000 hardcover and 50,000 paperback books with the altered photograph. No photo runs in the popular board-book format, for younger readers, which accounts for three-quarters of the 800,000 copies of "Goodnight Moon" HarperCollins said it sells annually.



Or it might be that even young kids know there are some people who smoke, and just seeing someone else smoke might not say to them "Hey, kid, fire it up."

Or, alternatively, it might be no one who has the book noticed the dude on the back cover is smoking until someone pointed it out.

Hooraydiation

Hooraydiation

Boston, MA
October 2005

NOV 20, 2005 04:40 PM

Personally, I'm more worried about the pagan moon worship.

ThrottleBitch

ThrottleBitch

Emeryville, CA
November 2005

NOV 20, 2005 04:45 PM

I can see how in our increasingly anti-smoking society parents would complain to the publisher or not purchase a book as a result of a picture of the author smoking on the back. That being said, I don't see how this picture would incite 2-6 year-olds to light up.

As a smoker, I would like to bring up the point that I am actually providing a valuable source of city, state and federal income. All the taxes that I pay to smoke are not going to subsidize the health care of smokers seeking medical care as a result of years of smoking. These taxes are providing a fair amount of money to a variety of government programs. Am I supporting an industry that makes people sick? Yes, but then again how many other industries are making people ill through their products?

gut666

gut666

Moreno Valley, CA
April 2005

NOV 20, 2005 04:45 PM

the censored version looks creepy . put the cig back . dont tell me we are now gonna censor famous artists , writers , politicians , musicians etc . over a cig.

Someguysteve

Someguysteve

USA
September 2005

NOV 20, 2005 04:45 PM

I think people should differentiate between a cartoon character designed to make kids want to smoke and the mere existance of a guy smoking.

catatac

catatac

San Diego, CA
June 2005

NOV 20, 2005 04:49 PM

I've had the book ever since I can remember, and I've never even noticed the cigarette.

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

NOV 20, 2005 04:49 PM

The only time I ever felt bad about smoking was when I was sitting outside of a coffee shop smoking and this kid was watching me. Then he went over to his parents and said "i'm going to smoke when I grow up"
I've never been given a stinkier eye than what his parents gave me.

This is fucking dumb though.

[Edited on Nov 20, 2005 by MrStitches]

Moonrabbit

Moonrabbit

Vancouver, BC
February 2005

NOV 20, 2005 04:53 PM

I actually have nothing against smoking. Everybody should have the right if they want to.

I am against the companies that put addictive ingredients into little cheap rolls of crap that are far from a fine cuban cigar or grandpa's home grown cherry tobacco.
I never quite understood why 'punks' so intent on striking back at the machine, smoked...

I shouldn't have to sit there soaking up the scent of said cheapo crap sticks while I'm waiting for my bus. Nobody should. So like drinking. Do it it private.

Lastly I am against censorship of history. Shit happened.. People did things that were bad for them.
Did you ever idolize the lousy black and white pictures of creepy old people in the backs of your children's books?

fictionalsounds

fictionalsounds

Alva, OK
April 2004

NOV 20, 2005 06:00 PM

funniest message headline in months wink

alpha_hazard

alpha_hazard

Fort Collins, CO
April 2004

NOV 20, 2005 06:01 PM

Kid_Dangerbot said:
Personally, I'm more worried about the pagan moon worship.



Not to mention harper collin's clear lack of american pride, publishing the book in what...sixty languages? tongue

BlueCadet

BlueCadet

Austin, TX
August 2003

NOV 20, 2005 06:55 PM

Completely ridiculous.

Cecelia

Cecelia

Minneapolis, MN
June 2005

NOV 20, 2005 07:04 PM

bloomews said:
I've had the book ever since I can remember, and I've never even noticed the cigarette.



Ditto. And I read this book to my 16 month old every freaking night and I've never noticed it either.

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

NOV 20, 2005 07:12 PM

The altered version looks like he is about to clutch his chest in response to an oncoming heart attack.

brett_bretterson

brett_bretterson

Goleta, CA
April 2005

NOV 20, 2005 07:40 PM

Wow....a kid seeing their parents or some family member smoke is okay. Seeing some random guy smoking on the inside back cover of your favorite children's book will make that 4 year old light up faster than a raging bull in a TNT factory.

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

NOV 20, 2005 07:54 PM

I am honestly a torn about this. I am a smoker and I hate that I am a smoker and I generally support any effort to get kids not to smoke. Though at the same time, I went through a great deal of anti-smoking education and I knew what the consequences were and I still decided to start smoking when I was an otherwise very concientious and rule-abiding teenager. I don't think a children's book is the best place to feature a picture of a guy with a cigarette - at the same time, this is an old, classic book and it was illustrated by a man who clearly enjoyed smoking, in a time when smoking was much more ubiquitous. I don't think that altering the picture was borne so much out of a thought that seeing it would promote smoking, but more out of a move to take smoking out of daily life, a move that I generally support. But my historical respect and condemnation of any sort of revision of the past makes me want to oppose a move like this. I suppose that I sympathize with the move, but in the end...I would leave the picture as is.

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

NOV 20, 2005 08:01 PM

MissTyrios said:
I am honestly a torn about this. I am a smoker and I hate that I am a smoker and I generally support any effort to get kids not to smoke. Though at the same time, I went through a great deal of anti-smoking education and I knew what the consequences were and I still decided to start smoking when I was an otherwise very concientious and rule-abiding teenager. I don't think a children's book is the best place to feature a picture of a guy with a cigarette - at the same time, this is an old, classic book and it was illustrated by a man who clearly enjoyed smoking, in a time when smoking was much more ubiquitous. I don't think that altering the picture was borne so much out of a thought that seeing it would promote smoking, but more out of a move to take smoking out of daily life, a move that I generally support. But my historical respect and condemnation of any sort of revision of the past makes me want to oppose a move like this. I suppose that I sympathize with the move, but in the end...I would leave the picture as is.



When you get down to it though, It doesn't really accomplish anything. If a kid is going to start smoking because of one guy in one picture they were probably going to smoke anyhow.
I guess there is no real reason for it to bother me, but it does. A lot really.

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

NOV 20, 2005 08:20 PM

MrStitches said:

MissTyrios said:
I am honestly a torn about this. I am a smoker and I hate that I am a smoker and I generally support any effort to get kids not to smoke. Though at the same time, I went through a great deal of anti-smoking education and I knew what the consequences were and I still decided to start smoking when I was an otherwise very concientious and rule-abiding teenager. I don't think a children's book is the best place to feature a picture of a guy with a cigarette - at the same time, this is an old, classic book and it was illustrated by a man who clearly enjoyed smoking, in a time when smoking was much more ubiquitous. I don't think that altering the picture was borne so much out of a thought that seeing it would promote smoking, but more out of a move to take smoking out of daily life, a move that I generally support. But my historical respect and condemnation of any sort of revision of the past makes me want to oppose a move like this. I suppose that I sympathize with the move, but in the end...I would leave the picture as is.



When you get down to it though, It doesn't really accomplish anything. If a kid is going to start smoking because of one guy in one picture they were probably going to smoke anyhow.
I guess there is no real reason for it to bother me, but it does. A lot really.



But see, I don't see it as a catalyst for a kid to start smoking - I don't actually believe that a kid is going to look at the Goodnight Moon picture and decide to light up. I think the important thing is removing smoking and cigarettes from as many places as possible so as to reduce their presence overall and thus reduce their impact. But I don't mean necessarily "removing" cigarettes via photoshop or altered film, which is why I come down against this particular move. Overall, though, I think the less kids are exposed to smoking in general, the better.

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

NOV 20, 2005 08:23 PM

Dammit, Jake. If you're going to say "spoiler alert", give us time to stop reading.



Nice touch. Hilarious.

[Edited on Nov 20, 2005 by BillHaverchuck]

nobodaddy

nobodaddy

Burlington, VT
August 2003

NOV 20, 2005 08:33 PM

The Soviets used to do this stuff. Enough with the tyranny of health..

That said, I don't have any photoshop skillz, but I'm hoping this thread turns into a demonstration of funny things you can do with that picture. ooo aaa

desidia

desidia

Reunion
September 2002

NOV 20, 2005 08:43 PM

I don't know about you but I need to go light up a cigarette. I'm totally serious too.

MrZablowdowski

MrZablowdowski

Edmonton, AB
December 2002

NOV 20, 2005 08:58 PM

Idle hands are the devil's plaything.
Best insert a Bible in that empty hand.

SomethingStupid

SomethingStupid

North Hollywood, CA
March 2004

NOV 20, 2005 09:07 PM

It's sorta silly, but it's really hard to get upset about.

NinjaTech

NinjaTech

Minneapolis, MN
November 2003

NOV 20, 2005 10:53 PM

Finally HarperCollins got my letter.

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

NOV 20, 2005 11:11 PM

The sad part is, he's not smoking in the picture. he's holding something really tiny and hard to identify in his hand. I *guess* it's a cigarette, but no kid that age is going to be able to tell.

Mthrsuperior

Mthrsuperior

Victoria, BC
November 2002

NOV 20, 2005 11:29 PM

Jaxtrble said:
I can see how in our increasingly anti-smoking society parents would complain to the publisher or not purchase a book as a result of a picture of the author smoking on the back. That being said, I don't see how this picture would incite 2-6 year-olds to light up.

As a smoker, I would like to bring up the point that I am actually providing a valuable source of city, state and federal income. All the taxes that I pay to smoke are not going to subsidize the health care of smokers seeking medical care as a result of years of smoking. These taxes are providing a fair amount of money to a variety of government programs. Am I supporting an industry that makes people sick? Yes, but then again how many other industries are making people ill through their products?




Spoken like a true addict

Previous

PAGE: 

1 | 2

Next