Sloane said:
Of course not! Uh, it's been like 10 years since I went through this shit and I don't remember the rules AT ALL, but I am shocked that your brother was forced to take the exam while on a morphine drip! They wouldn't allow him to take the test after he'd healed? That is crazy.

He had already been out of school (not graduated, just on leave because of injury) for a couple years and didn't want to push off his application even further. It was his choice whether to have the medication and be comfortable, so that the pain didn't distract him but have the mental effects of the compound or the opposite set-up.

Oh, and Sloane, I didn't mean to use his example as an end-all-be-all either. I just wanted to illustrate that there probably are a huge range of situations similar to both his and yours. Sorry if it sounded like I was saying, "Well, you aren't even thinking of my brother" or something like that.

[Edited on Nov 03, 2005 by Fatality]

Oh, no, I got what you were saying. There's obviously a whole spectrum of circumstances (including but not limited to learning disabilites, accidents, etc.), which is why it's difficult, I would assume, to develop a *standardized* test.

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

NOV 03, 2005 02:06 PM

PointBlank said:
I think the problem is that this survey is claiming that the new SAT essay portion is a decent remedy for the problem of fraudulent personal essays

I agree. I wasn't saying that it won't help with fradulent personal essays, just that it is not a panacea and that there are other factors involved.

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

NOV 03, 2005 02:06 PM

Fatality said:

Idjiit said:

Fatality said:

Idjiit said:
I would imagine it's not difficult to tell the difference between someone who's dyslexic and someone who's hired a ghost writer.

Actually, it probably is very difficult. I just took a training course this past weekend (for six hours) on how to identify dyslexic writing (and ESOL writing and anxiety in writing and etc.). I have been trained in these areas for the past year, and it is still difficult; I don't imagine that it is easy for someone who has no idea of the charactersitic (and variable) signs to look for.

So then basically you're saying nothing should change about the application process? Should the people actually involved in the application process and have problems with it just quit whining, or what? Or is this just a problem manufactured by Kaplan or whoever to solve a problem that doesn't exist?

Woah, hang on. I'm not making any such broad conclusions or inclusive statements, nor did I intend to convey them anywhere within my text. I don't really think I said any of that. I was just pointing out some other factors that need to be considered.

In an earlier post you indicated the solution is to take a holistic approach to the application. Isn't this what's done already? It seemed like you were just advocating the existing process by resisting giving the application reviewers another point of data to consider. Sorry if I misunderstood.

PointBlank

New York, NY

November 2004

NOV 03, 2005 02:08 PM

Fatality said:

PointBlank said:
I think the problem is that this survey is claiming that the new SAT essay portion is a decent remedy for the problem of fraudulent personal essays

I agree. I wasn't saying that it won't help with fradulent personal essays, just that it is not a panacea and that there are other factors involved.

The idea that a few over-polished essays are a bigger problem than an admissions process that basically uses the SAT as a crutch is utterly ridiculous, in my opinion.

The personal essay is one of the best checks agains over reliance on the SATs. Now the SAT is being used to spot bogus essays? Anything that increases dependence on the SAT is a bad thing.

[Edited on Nov 03, 2005 by PointBlank]

PointBlank

New York, NY

November 2004

NOV 03, 2005 02:11 PM

.

[Edited on Nov 03, 2005 by PointBlank]

Liante

SUICIDEGIRL

Kiribati

NOV 04, 2005 07:43 AM

Nothing to see here. Move along, folks.

[Edited on Nov 04, 2005 by Liante]

Burzum

San Juan Capistrano, CA

July 2004

NOV 04, 2005 07:55 AM

Fatality, I think you're too intelligent for this site. Stop arguing.

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

NOV 04, 2005 11:05 AM

Burzum said:
Fatality, I think you're too intelligent for this site. Stop arguing.

I think that was a ccompliment? If so, thank you.

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