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Elijah

Elijah

SUICIDEGIRL

New York, USA

OCT 30, 2005 05:47 AM

someday i hope im important enough to someone that they get a tattoo of me on them. ok, i lied, i really just want bragging rights.
anyone been "honored" like this? names dont count. your actual face on someone.
post pics.
and how do you feel about it? did they tell you before hand or was it a surprise?
i bet theres not too many.

Fatality

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

OCT 30, 2005 07:16 AM

This is what I posted in the tattoo group:

Someone is in the process of getting one of me (i.e. it's being drawn up). He asked beforehand (it's a member of the site), and I think it is a fantastically wonderful compliment - the ultimate fan art.

I think it is going to be adapted from this photo:


[Edited on Oct 30, 2005 by Fatality]

ShadowDancer

ShadowDancer

I'm lost
August 2005

OCT 30, 2005 09:18 AM

I want to know how someone feels about this
after the other individual has had the tattoo for a long time
because I read this and that got me thinking how I would feel if that ever happened to me...

here is me using my imagination:

at first I would be flattered

then I would wonder what it was about me that made me so important to that individual that they would want to have me with them every single moment for the rest of there life

I am not sure I would ever feel worthy of that

my tattoos have such deep emotional value to me
I do not think an image of me would ever hold that much value to any individual


and then I think I would just completely freak out

I have had people who don't know me hold really really intense feelings for me
it is frightening
I believe it would turn into something like that

yet I do not know

just using my imagination

I don't imagine this happens that often



I am sure this makes absolutely no sense what so ever
I generally tend not to make sense

[Edited on Oct 30, 2005 by ShadowDancer]

Fatality

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

OCT 30, 2005 09:32 AM

ShadowDancer, this is also what I said in the tattoo group:

I would much rather have someone who didn't know me get a tattoo of me - of my image - something that can't be marred. I'd rather someone get a tattoo of me as another element of visual iconography - just as they would a pin-up girl, a star, or a Jack Skellington.

If it was because of a relationship, the image would be dependent on context. The connotations associated with the image would change, and I would never want someone having an image of me on them that they could eventually hate or dislike because of changes in our relationship.

Sloane

Sloane

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

OCT 30, 2005 09:34 AM

I know someone got a tattoo of Katie - it's the Rion Vernon art from the calendar.

Of course, she's not here to speak up about how she feels about that, so this post is pointless. tongue

Mythicus

Mythicus

Lawnside, NJ
May 2004

OCT 30, 2005 09:39 AM

Sloane said:
I know someone got a tattoo of Katie - it's the Rion Vernon art from the calendar.

Of course, she's not here to speak up about how she feels about that, so this post is pointless. tongue



she said it was odd.

Fatality

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

OCT 30, 2005 10:11 AM

Sloane said:
I know someone got a tattoo of Katie - it's the Rion Vernon art from the calendar.

Of course, she's not here to speak up about how she feels about that, so this post is pointless. tongue



villain13 has done a Katie and a mary tattoo

In process:


Finished:

ShadowDancer

ShadowDancer

I'm lost
August 2005

OCT 30, 2005 10:14 AM

Fatality said:
ShadowDancer, this is also what I said in the tattoo group:

I would much rather have someone who didn't know me get a tattoo of me - of my image - something that can't be marred. I'd rather someone get a tattoo of me as another element of visual iconography - just as they would a pin-up girl, a star, or a Jack Skellington.

If it was because of a relationship, the image would be dependent on context. The connotations associated with the image would change, and I would never want someone having an image of me on them that they could eventually hate or dislike because of changes in our relationship.




so in becoming the model for a tattoo you become a symbol

what do you symbolize?

Fatality

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

OCT 30, 2005 10:20 AM

ShadowDancer said:

Fatality said:
ShadowDancer, this is also what I said in the tattoo group:

I would much rather have someone who didn't know me get a tattoo of me - of my image - something that can't be marred. I'd rather someone get a tattoo of me as another element of visual iconography - just as they would a pin-up girl, a star, or a Jack Skellington.

If it was because of a relationship, the image would be dependent on context. The connotations associated with the image would change, and I would never want someone having an image of me on them that they could eventually hate or dislike because of changes in our relationship.




so in becoming the model for a tattoo you become a symbol

what do you symbolize?



That would depend on the person getting it. I also think that many people get tattoos for reasons other than symbolism - many times in the SG group people have talked about getting tattoos merely for aesthetic reasons. Here is a link to a thread on people with tattoos without meaning.. In that sense, it would be like getting a pinup girl tattoo - where you don't know the person, just the image.

Come to think of it, I think it's the opposite of symbolism, which is what I was explaining in my previous post. To imbue the image with connotation and meaning is to make it dependent on factors that can change with time. To choose an image as an image is to choose a static, aesthetic feature.



[Edited on Oct 30, 2005 by Fatality]

ShadowDancer

ShadowDancer

I'm lost
August 2005

OCT 30, 2005 10:37 AM

Fatality said:

ShadowDancer said:

Fatality said:
ShadowDancer, this is also what I said in the tattoo group:

I would much rather have someone who didn't know me get a tattoo of me - of my image - something that can't be marred. I'd rather someone get a tattoo of me as another element of visual iconography - just as they would a pin-up girl, a star, or a Jack Skellington.

If it was because of a relationship, the image would be dependent on context. The connotations associated with the image would change, and I would never want someone having an image of me on them that they could eventually hate or dislike because of changes in our relationship.




so in becoming the model for a tattoo you become a symbol

what do you symbolize?



That would depend on the person getting it. I also think that many people get tattoos for reasons other than symbolism - many times in the SG group people have talked about getting tattoos merely for aesthetic reasons. In that sense, it would be like getting a pinup girl tattoo - where you don't know the person, just the image.

Come to think of it, I think it's the opposite of symbolism, which is what I was explaining in my previous post. To imbue the image with connotation and meaning is to make it dependent on factors that can change with time. To choose an image as an image is to choose a static, aesthetic feature.

[Edited on Oct 30, 2005 by Fatality]




but then in a manner you are still a symbol
you cease to be you
as you truly are (I don't mean you as in "Fatality Suicide" but the real you)
but rather perhaps...an aesthetic ideal?
the image of SG?

the human mind functions in such a manner that is creates associations...you see something...if you just find it pretty...or what not...you find it pretty for a reason...the fact that you as an individual find it beautiful means something


pinups tend to symbolize sex or beauty...isn't that one of the reasons people love them...they are ideals of sexuality and beauty...

I will stop now I make no sense
and I haven't slept

Fatality
you are beautiful and will make a stunning tatttoo


Fatality

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

OCT 30, 2005 11:16 AM

Oh, I know that associations will still be made: nothing is neutral. I was just saying that I would rather have the associations be minimal, the value placed on the aesthetics than have the image be a function of my person and our relationship. If that makes sense.

And thank you!

Oracle

Oracle

Winnipeg, MB
September 2003

OCT 30, 2005 11:31 AM

who is on the logo? cause I have her on my ass biggrin

Eddie

Eddie

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

OCT 30, 2005 11:33 AM

Elijah, I really love the title of this thread. I love simple silly rhymes, a lot.

[Edited on Oct 30, 2005 by Eddie]

FridgeMagnet

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL
November 2004

OCT 30, 2005 11:34 AM

NewYorkMatt said:
someone told me the fridgemagnet's face is tatooed on scarlett johansen's taint.



She was PISSED when she came to.

blackeyed

Leanimal

Leanimal

Gainesville, FL
February 2005

OCT 30, 2005 11:49 AM

I'm not supposed to be answering this thread, because no one has a tattoo of me, but I could easily see people getting tattoos of SG's - just like they get tattoos of Bettie Page or Marilyn Monroe, etc. I don't necessarily think there's some heartfelt emotion behind it, but like Fatality mentioned, a desire for a certain type of aesthetic - like an icon, but simply a more modern one, that doesn't necessarily have any type of fame or redundancy as some of the classic pin-ups (I suppose I should add yet to that phrase - you never know).

But if someone were to get a tattoo of me - I wouldn't want it to be anyone I'm close to, but mostly because I wouldn't understand. A true friend wouldn't need to immortalize me with an ink picture - they have memories of me in their mind that should suffice, and won't wrinkle or stretch or blur with time. I'd rather be in their head than on their arm. But for someone who doesn't know me - who simply sees me as an image, a photo, or even a girl with a blog on the internet, a tattoo may be their only way of making permanent what I mean to them. Because if someone got a tattoo of you, it wouldn't matter what you thought you meant to them - all that would matter is what they decided you meant or represented. And my guess, is that if you ended up permanent on someone's skin, you mean something good - even if it's got little to do with who you really are at all. So in terms of that, I don't think I'd be freaked - because the tattoo would have nothing to do with me at all (excluding what I looked like), but everything to do with the person that got it.

That's my long-winded way of saying I'd have no opinion - because the image has nothing really to do with me (again, excluding what I look like).