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OCT 05, 2005 05:08 PM
OCT 05, 2005 05:36 PM
OCT 05, 2005 05:42 PM
reprobate said:
And whaqt those of us capable of higher rational thought are saying is that people who fuck over the defenseless and tragedy stricken are scumbags.
This isn't a situational ethics hypo where you have to decide whther to rob the pharmacy to get medicine for your dying child. This is robbing the dying child of medicine. If youre willing to do that, your morals aren't bent, they're absent.
I like how you flame me for having a different opinion than you. Way to be an idiot. I agreed that they are scumbags, and I agree that heavy punishment should be imposed on them. I also think that this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. What about the people who do the exact same thing in foreign countries? Why don't you ever hear about that? Why isn't the outrage so outright and in the open as it is with this specific situation? Is it so much more important now that something like this has happened to America? I don't think so. If you do, perhaps you should exclude yourself from that category of "capable of higher rational thought". 
OCT 05, 2005 06:54 PM
MorteDaRomance said:
I like how you flame me for having a different opinion than you. Way to be an idiot. I agreed that they are scumbags, and I agree that heavy punishment should be imposed on them. I also think that this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. What about the people who do the exact same thing in foreign countries? Why don't you ever hear about that? Why isn't the outrage so outright and in the open as it is with this specific situation? Is it so much more important now that something like this has happened to America? I don't think so. If you do, perhaps you should exclude yourself from that category of "capable of higher rational thought".
Haha, you must be new. And as far as not hearing about shit like this going on in other countries, try reading a non-US based news site.
OCT 05, 2005 06:55 PM
MorteDaRomance said:
reprobate said:
And whaqt those of us capable of higher rational thought are saying is that people who fuck over the defenseless and tragedy stricken are scumbags.
This isn't a situational ethics hypo where you have to decide whther to rob the pharmacy to get medicine for your dying child. This is robbing the dying child of medicine. If youre willing to do that, your morals aren't bent, they're absent.
I like how you flame me for having a different opinion than you. Way to be an idiot. I agreed that they are scumbags, and I agree that heavy punishment should be imposed on them. I also think that this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. What about the people who do the exact same thing in foreign countries? Why don't you ever hear about that? Why isn't the outrage so outright and in the open as it is with this specific situation? Is it so much more important now that something like this has happened to America? I don't think so. If you do, perhaps you should exclude yourself from that category of "capable of higher rational thought".
That's not what he said at all. He used the general term "people." He never said "American" once. If one exploits a situation like this for his personal gain to the detriment of those in need, he is an asshole, be he American, German, British, Indonesian, Somalian, Martian, etc.
OCT 05, 2005 08:24 PM
MorteDaRomance said:
reprobate said:
And whaqt those of us capable of higher rational thought are saying is that people who fuck over the defenseless and tragedy stricken are scumbags.
This isn't a situational ethics hypo where you have to decide whther to rob the pharmacy to get medicine for your dying child. This is robbing the dying child of medicine. If youre willing to do that, your morals aren't bent, they're absent.
I like how you flame me for having a different opinion than you.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but I flamed you because your opinion was ill-conceived and puerile. We all have the same right to hold an opinion, but really, some opinions are worthless.
Way to be an idiot. I agreed that they are scumbags, and I agree that heavy punishment should be imposed on them. I also think that this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion.
Your neighbors aren't fucking depending on that money to live. Mine are, and unlike most political arguments which are overwrought and turgid, "to live" here is not hyperbolic, its literal. One of the Red Cross' primary food distribution centers is four blocks from my house. The cars are lined up 40 deep at times. Nice cars. Cars of people who until six weeks ago had good middle class jobs who are now reduced to waiting in line for handouts so they don't fucking starve to death. Thats who these fucks were stealing from along with people far worse off who have to have their food delivered by US Marshals because they have no cars at all. How much more reprehensible than stealing food from the starving do we have to get before its not "overblown"?
What about the people who do the exact same thing in foreign countries? Why don't you ever hear about that?
Why don't you pick up a newspaper and learn to read for content. If you do, you'll hear all about it.
This is a non argument. That bad things happen elsewhere does not mitigate or excuse bad things here, and incidentally, one of us used to coordinate international aid in the developing world for a living and its not you, so spare me the sanctimony.
Why isn't the outrage so outright and in the open as it is with this specific situation? Is it so much more important now that something like this has happened to America? I don't think so. If you do, perhaps you should exclude yourself from that category of "capable of higher rational thought".
Like I said, you go to Kalimantan and develop sustainable agriculture programs for USAID for a few years and you get to lecture me, not before.
OCT 05, 2005 08:43 PM
MorteDaRomance said:
reprobate said:
And whaqt those of us capable of higher rational thought are saying is that people who fuck over the defenseless and tragedy stricken are scumbags.
This isn't a situational ethics hypo where you have to decide whther to rob the pharmacy to get medicine for your dying child. This is robbing the dying child of medicine. If youre willing to do that, your morals aren't bent, they're absent.
I like how you flame me for having a different opinion than you. Way to be an idiot. I agreed that they are scumbags, and I agree that heavy punishment should be imposed on them. I also think that this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. What about the people who do the exact same thing in foreign countries? Why don't you ever hear about that? Why isn't the outrage so outright and in the open as it is with this specific situation? Is it so much more important now that something like this has happened to America? I don't think so. If you do, perhaps you should exclude yourself from that category of "capable of higher rational thought".
You're not even starting to get flamed, by the standards of this board. BTW, complaining of getting flamed and responding by calling them an idiot is hilarious.
Pot, kettle, black.
Moving on, you don't hear about this as much in, say, the third world because this is the biggest natural disaster in the US's modern history. As such, incidents like this are going to make headlines and spark serious outrage, just as they damn well should.
stainedecho
Bloomington, IN
September 2005
OCT 05, 2005 02:28 PM