NEWS: You Fucking Assholes

CULTURE: You Fucking Assholes

The FBI has arrested 9 residents of Bakersfield, California, for defrauding the Red Cross of at least $25,000 that was meant for victims of hurricane Katrina. Four of these completely fucking worthless human beings had volunteered to help at a Red Cross center following the storm, but started finding ways to put money in their own pockets instead.

There is a Hurricane Katrina Fraud Task Force already in place. In addition to the human scum arrested in Bakersfield, the FBI has netted a disgusting waste of life named Gary S. Kraser in Florida, who stole almost $40,000 in donated money, as well as complete and total dickfaces Tino Lee and Gina Liz Nicholas of California, who posed as Red Cross employees collecting money outside stores in Burbank, CA.

Fuck these people. Seriously. And not in the fun way, either.

wow that seriously pisses me off. cocksuckers.

You'd be shocked at all the different scams people pull with disasters like this. While Stiles and I were down there we listened to the radio a lot, and there was a PSA running fairly regularly warning people about hiring people to do reconstruction work - fairly "duh" stuff like "don't pay before services are rendered". It just boggles my mind that people would victimize people who've already gone through so much.

What the fuck is it that separates people that would do that shit from the ones that don't. Do they have no fuckin soul?

Simple: Opportunity.

And Greed

I'm just saying everybody has the capacity for any moral or ethical crime.

[Edited on Oct 05, 2005 by SuperNintendo]

Capacity doesn't equal inclination, though.

If we could determine that every person who takes money from something like this is caught and, yes, 99.99% of every single person who is involved in charities is truly a wonderful person I would buy it. But I guess I have a much lower opinion of humanity than some others.

So are you suggesting that we are all inherently evil, and given what we perceive as a reasonable chance of escaping undetected, we would all do the same thing? My overall opinion of humanity is low, but I have a hard time swallowing that. I don't think everyone who gives or volunteers for a charity is altruistic, but I can't believe that they're all potential criminals.

Dont let them turn you to the dark side man.... Its not true!
Even though morals and ethics are relative, and we live in a morally deprived nation, not "everybody is capable of any moral or ethical crime"... Why do you think the news is full of negativity? To breed isolation and distrust and contempt for the fellow human? My guess is yes, propaganda is a well oiled machine.. However, I must say "dont believe the hype!" Truly it is a shame that many people live by the code of "go on take the money and run," but we all know "you cant take it with you," in the end... and it is true that "everything that comes around goes around." Anyway, that shit really sux...

Sorry you feel that way, man. Why don't you volunteer with the Red Cross or one of the hundreds of non-profit organizations currently involved in cleanup and restoration down there and see for yourself what people are really doing. There's a lot of great people doing selfless work who you're writing off because there's the usual handful of fuckwads taking advantage of the situation.

I wouldn't go so far to say evil, but yeah I would say we're all basically fighting our most selfish and crude desires deep down. It's just a matter of how you go about it and how it makes you behave. What is your perception of these people? That they're unfit for society, psychopathic monsters? Or that they're just regular people who took a risk/chance to get some money. I think it's the latter, but that's just me.

The fraud triangle is

1. Opportunity

2. Non-shareable financial need.

3. The ability to rationalize the behavior as ethical or legal.

We're not talking about capacity, we're talking about inclination. Some people are pieces of shit and that's all there is to it. Things like this bring out people's true nature. I could defraud FEMA or the Red Cross. I could have looted my neighbors houses, I could have sold lumber and tarps and water for ten times what I paid for it. I could have also gotten away with it. I didn't, and neither did 99% of the people who had better reason than a bunch of greedy scumbags 1500 miles away. I helped people and what I did was an inconceiveable fraction of what tens of thousands of others from all over the world have done. The Humane Society people rescuing pets right now are paying to be there out of their own pockets. The Military, Police and Fire personel from all over the world are down there in tents with their lives on hold and have been for over a month. Even my insurance adjuster who is just doing his job is living in an RV 70 miles away because thats what he has to do to get his job done. All these people have your capacity but they also have free will and a conscience.

Then maybe you ought to come to New Orleans.

Is it to much for them to be taken into a feild and shot? It is isn't it? Yeah I thought so.

Thank you for yet again saying it better than I ever could.

Psychopathic? No. Unfit for society? Yes. And anything else I might say would just be echoing most of what reprobate said, so there is no need to do so.

This is obviously disgusting. But it surprises me not at all. There are a lot of people in the world who will do anything for a buck. It's been that way from the beginning of time, and it will never go away.

Why are residents of Bakersfield, CA such fucking assholes?

If anyone thinks I'm saying the aid workers in New Orleans and from around the world are all criminals, we've had a misunderstanding. What I guess I'm getting at is this is such a common, human problem that I don't feel it needs to be reacted to in such a way. This kind of thing happens and it's terrible. Look at those kid's ages, 19, 20, 21...Do you honestly mean to tell me you think a fucking teenager has already voided his life away to worthlessness on something like this?

I'm not trying to derail anyone's volunteer and work efforts, I just don't think it's right to call these people monsters.

[Edited on Oct 05, 2005 by SuperNintendo]

An hour ago you were all about the wrechedness of mankind and now youre saying that people who signed up to help distribute aid and instead ripped off the devastated and empvovershed aren't so bad? Read the article again. Some of those people were merely ripping off the Red Cross, but some of them were taking issued IDs. They were banking that their buddies would be able to get to Western Union before people who were living in fucking shelters with what they could carry on their backs. Monsters? I don't belive in monsters. I do belive that people who steal from those with nothing shouldn't have the priviledge of seeing their loved ones save though 2 inches of plexiglas ever again, though.

And incidentally, 19, 20 and 21 is about how old most of the military personel in New Orleans are.

I think that people's reaction to this crime has just a little to do with the magnitude of the disaster involved, and the fact that it happened to us.