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Kalina

Kalina

Laredo, TX
April 2005

SEP 30, 2005 01:31 PM

What country was this in again?!?! confused

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

SEP 30, 2005 01:37 PM

I need a drink.

whatever

Lemonkid

Lemonkid

Canada
May 2003

SEP 30, 2005 02:14 PM

Breaking the law has never felt so good.

YUSHi

YUSHi

United Kingdom
May 2004

SEP 30, 2005 07:12 PM

Why is it i only ever see the word 'celibacy' on the SG newswire?

robosagogo

robosagogo

State College, PA
September 2004

SEP 30, 2005 07:19 PM

Idjiit said:
Hell, better than having your horrific levels of acne sentencing you to a life of celibacy. I only wish I could blame the courts for mine during High School.



Stealing my poooosssttt.

Meridon

Meridon

I'm lost
September 2005

SEP 30, 2005 07:19 PM

penates said:
Apparently so! Luckily Robert Heinlein has fuckall to do with the American legal system.

Or at least, so I assume. I never made it all the way through any of his books, so I guess I'll never know for sure...



You're really, really not missing much other than a fellow who's been told he's rather clever being amused at his own cleverness. "Look! A thinly-veiled reference or metaphor! How did that get in my book? Well, it must be because I'm just so clever."

Megalomatthew

MegaloMatthew

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

SEP 30, 2005 07:21 PM

do they honestly think that they're going to stop her???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

She'll find a way...they all find a way!

- oink

frisinator

frisinator

Forney, TX
May 2004

OCT 01, 2005 02:18 PM

DrGonzo2000 said:
I've been sentenced to celibacy too. Yeah, yeah. That's the ticket.



hahhaah yeah uh me too

abracadabra

abracadabra

Seattle, WA
April 2004

OCT 01, 2005 02:38 PM

THX1138

msgypsy

msgypsy

Roanoke, VA
March 2005

OCT 02, 2005 11:58 AM

Isn't 16 the age of consent? shocked

And how can she decide what is part of the "drug culture?" Which one? W's cocaine buddies at Yale or just the ones who don't look "normal?" mad

penates

penates

Madison, WI
December 2003

OCT 02, 2005 03:45 PM

Meridon said:

penates said:
Apparently so! Luckily Robert Heinlein has fuckall to do with the American legal system.

Or at least, so I assume. I never made it all the way through any of his books, so I guess I'll never know for sure...



You're really, really not missing much other than a fellow who's been told he's rather clever being amused at his own cleverness. "Look! A thinly-veiled reference or metaphor! How did that get in my book? Well, it must be because I'm just so clever."



Yeah, that's the impression I got. The "witty banter" never seemed quite witty enough, and it's all just a bit too pulpy for my tastes.

flowerofromance

flowerofromance

Chicago, IL
May 2005

OCT 02, 2005 04:22 PM

Subrosa said:
Oh, you wacky activist conservative judges, you.

If this girl were 18, I would think the ruling would be overturned per Lawrence v. Texas. That said, I'm not so sure that the state couldn't make out a sufficiently constitutionally acceptable argument based on the fact that she's a minor. It'd be completely a bullshit argument of course, but stranger things have happened.


You should know, Mr. Law Student, that higher courts have ruled that minors have no rights--on school grounds. Not sure if that could possibly apply to shit that happens within someone's bedroom.

Given the fact that minors have few legal rights in this country, yet we're expected to learn to use them responsibly as soon as we reach 18...it's no fucking wonder most Americans are apathetic dunderheads.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

OCT 02, 2005 06:04 PM

StephenDedalus said:

Subrosa said:
Oh, you wacky activist conservative judges, you.

If this girl were 18, I would think the ruling would be overturned per Lawrence v. Texas. That said, I'm not so sure that the state couldn't make out a sufficiently constitutionally acceptable argument based on the fact that she's a minor. It'd be completely a bullshit argument of course, but stranger things have happened.


You should know, Mr. Law Student, that higher courts have ruled that minors have no rights--on school grounds. Not sure if that could possibly apply to shit that happens within someone's bedroom.

Given the fact that minors have few legal rights in this country, yet we're expected to learn to use them responsibly as soon as we reach 18...it's no fucking wonder most Americans are apathetic dunderheads.



Not to quibble with you... but the higher courts have not ruled that kids have NO rights on school grounds. For example, see Tinker v. Des Moines, where the Courts invalidated a school ordinance prohibiting the wearing of black protest armbands in school on First Amendment grounds. That said, they've certainly upheld drastic limitations of the rights of students to express themselves and be secure in their persons or property.

I forwarded this question to my Family Law professor and she agreed with the analysis above. The state would be able to justify such a sentence on the grounds that protection of minors is a rational basis for such a law. It would depend on how the specific judge decides to balance things. That said, it would STILL likely be held to be unconstitutional based on problems of enforcement. There's no way to enforce the sentence without having governmental intrusion into the bedroom and the Supreme Court has pretty consistently ruled that such an intrusion is Constitutionally impermissible.

flowerofromance

flowerofromance

Chicago, IL
May 2005

OCT 02, 2005 06:09 PM

Subrosa, yer so smart. love I luv it wen you use big werds. blush

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