Why is "seven" so damn perfect?

It's still better than the time quakes in Millennium.

The film totally went down the shitter right then and there. Any film that ends with someone's head in a box is a film that tries way too hard.

Ah, that's about as funny as a screen door on a battleship.

Some guy did a shot-for-shot re-enactment of the ending of Se7en with stuffed animals. It's kind of cool.

http://www.cggallery.com/seven/

If you have problems with causality loops then I imagine you're not a Trekkie.

i still get goosebumps at the end of se7en everytime

with all due respect what is wrong with sevens ending? I dont get why "it went down the shitter" after the whats in the box scene.

It absolutely makes no sense. The first five deaths made sense, they all were people murdered because they were guilty of one of the sins. So, to finish the list off, the killer kills an innocent, and says he's envy so that wrath will become David's sin? David never gets punished for his sin, and his innocent wife got killed. It makes no sense. It's a cop out. A shock ending for the sake of being a shock ending.

If his head had split open and a UFO woulda flown out, that woulda been a better ending.

I disagree. I think it went down the shitter when Gwenneth (how the hell is her name spelled, anyway? With an "e"? With a "y"?) Paltrow was introduced solely for the purpose of dying horribly. She was a hollow and pointless character, little more than a two-dimensional cut-out, whose only value to the plot was the be beheaded off-camera.

Now, the point where it got actually flushed is when they put her head in the box and utterly failed to show it, after all the other hideous and gory shit in the movie. If a movie's gonna have the gall to go for the old severed-head-in-a-box trick, it must have the stones to show the fricking head.

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I personally disliked the movie, and found it watchable only when Kevin Spacey was talking. I got a little tired of freeman's pronouncements of doom, like "This isn't gonna have a happy endin'." And Pitt's acting was a bit over-the-top. But over-all, I'd say Usual Suspects was a much better crime/mystery/suspense flick (with Spacey as a villain).

But hey, that's just my opinion. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade.

That has more to do with Shatner being a terrible actor and Riker annoying the piss out of me.

He was way more likeable before the beard.

Thank you! Exactly my thoughts... although no one I have ever talked to has ever agreed with me that this was a silly cop out.

I think the ultimate in depressing endings would have been two more set piece murders and then nothing. Morgan Freeman retires and Brad Pitt is left thinking "what's the point?"

That would have been grim and existential.

its LEAF you idiot! make like a tree and LEAF!

I ate one of my ex's brother's hash cookies at the start of Se7en, eating the whole thing despite his warning that it was rather strong and that I should go easy.

He was right, it was strong. You have no fucking idea how freaked out by the movie I was, and the whole head-in-the-box thing was diabollically perfect to me in that state of mind. I left the cinema in shock, my heart racing.

The other movie I saw in that state was Clockwork Orange. Do I know how to pick 'em or what.

No, not just you. I wonder why the second fancier Terminator that was invented later (compared to the first Terminator) can't be sent back to the same point in time as in the first one and aid in the effort to kill Sarah Connor then.

And I go through the post-mortem of "and if that time journey caused immediate ripple effects later on, why didn't the earlier time journey not result in that glass not being where it was, because it should have been moved..."

*shrug*

OK, I hate this movie with a burning passion, but I have to defend this part...

Don't you think his innocent wife getting killed is pretty nasty punishment for most anything. The same holds for a couple of the other killings. For instance, a prostitute isn't really the one guilty of "lust" so much as her john is.

Exactly the way I feel. I never had a problem with the ending in that aspect. What always bothered me was David's hesitation. Everytime I watch it, I'm mentally chanting, "shoot him, shoot him, shoot him, shoot him." That was his wife for Christ's sake. The love of his life. And she was pregnant with his child, and he didn't know before she was brutally killed? Yeah, I call bullshit. Fucker would have been dead at, "Oh... he didn't know."

Yea, there's no real difficult moral dilemas in the movie. Should he shoot him? Duh. Maybe these people really do deserve what happens to them? Um, no. When we're talking about the evils of being fat or a defense attourney, then there is some undeserved stone throwing going on. They'll try to figure out why he did it for years to come? Well, no, he's a nut. The end - NEXT!

For a morality play, no one really gets punished for their bad deeds. For something to make you ask moral questions, it's moral ambiguity is really weak and not that ambiguous. For an action movie it's pretty fucking dull. It's a well made/acted movie that doesn't have a point and doesn't have the originality and style that allows you to get away with having no point.

ThisIsWhoWeAre said:
What's in the box?!?

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"Nothing! Nothing's in the box! You so stupid!"

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