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thestral

thestral

Manassas, VA
August 2005

SEP 13, 2005 07:46 PM

Hey, they were polite well mannered children. I mean, sure, keeping them in cages seems bad, but c'mon. We're after results, the means aren't all that important. Besides, their cages were painted primary colors. How bright and cheerful! No proof so far to show that they wouldn't have grown up to be polite hard working members of society if raised this way.

Oh, and I'd like to point out that keeping people in cages isn't a sign of treating them like pets. That's flawed logic. Look at prison. Prisoners aren't treated like pets. They aren't exactly treated like humans, some would say, but our society has deemed it okay.

[Edited on Sep 13, 2005 10:50PM]

EmilyRocks

emilyrocks

Sacramento, CA
May 2004

SEP 13, 2005 09:44 PM

i read about this in the paper today. it's so utterly fucked. i never could understand how any person could treat any other person badly. just doesn't make sense to me. i hope the children in this case are okay in the end.

also, someday i want to be a foster mom. a good one. one of my friends grew up in foster care and she had the most amazing foster parents. it's terrible that every kid in the system can't have the same luck.

randompersona

randompersona

I'm lost
September 2005

SEP 13, 2005 10:33 PM

"The Gravelles have said a psychiatrist recommended they make the children sleep in the cages"

Are there ab. psych or child psych. qualified SG'ers around? Because I can't imagine a situation where a qualified psychiatrist would advocate locking.. locking developmentally handicapped children in cages.

FallFromGrace

FallFromGrace

Seattle, WA
March 2004

SEP 13, 2005 11:07 PM

It takes a lot to shock me I think.

I'm shocked.

overview

overview

United Kingdom
August 2004

SEP 14, 2005 03:00 AM

How can the Fostering system allow something like this to happen?

These sick people should be imprisoned themselves indefinitely. With very well endowed cell mates.

MistressMissy

mistressmissy

Grand Rapids, MI
March 2003

SEP 14, 2005 04:41 AM

why do all the fucked up people gotta be from ohio? :shakes head:
huron county isn't very far from where I used to live either.

boyfriday

boyfriday

Cardiff By The Sea, CA
January 2004

SEP 14, 2005 12:28 PM

One_Pure_Thought said:
1. I hope they get beaten within an inch of their life, get better, and then get beaten to death in prison.


2. Whoever let them have ELEVEN children should be banned from social services for life.



agreed

Shimmer

Shimmer

Marlborough, NH
October 2004

SEP 14, 2005 09:04 PM

i knew a girl in hs whose parents had died years earlier, and she was left in the care of her older brother and his wife...years later, when this girl was a friend of mine, her brother/sisinlaw had a baby girl...who they thought the world of.
my friend was treated with nothing but respect; she was given appropriate boundaries, rules to live by, freedom with responsibility...hands down, they were great parents, who genuinely cared for her. however, something went wrong...she began arguing with her bro/sisinlaw about everything, screaming fights, being physically violent, smashing things and throwing things around...then she attempted suicide with a bottle of pills in her brother/sisinlaw's home...alarms went off for them...are they just going to let this teenaged girl, who can't respect them or even herself, live under the same roof as their child? they revoked their foster care of her...i don't blame them. she was sent round the foster home circuit for a short time, because she had no respect for the people who took responsibility for her...she picked fights, came home late, was careless...etc. she was in and out of foster homes until the day she turned 18...then she was out on her own...but doing what? she managed somehow to graduate high school, but what happened to her afterwards, goddess only knows.
what can you do, as a foster parent, for a kid like that who disrespects your authority? where had she gone "bad"? who knows? i just hope that there are more good foster parents out there like her brother/sisinlaw...who did all they could to give her the best home possible.

[Edited on Sep 15, 2005 12:09AM]

[Edited on Sep 15, 2005 12:12AM]

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

SEP 14, 2005 09:13 PM

Yeah Wakeman! Firelands school district in the house!

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