NEWS: Man Forced to Have Foursome

CULTURE: Man Forced to Have Foursome

After pulling up alongside to ask for directions, three women allegedly forced a man to have sex with them - at gunpoint.

Upon arrest the women will be charged with indecent assault.

damnit...i'm driving on the wrong roads...

Coming up next, on "World's Most Gullible Cops"

well it is south africa, AIDS...

from the sound of it he was raped. i don't think prude has anything to do with it.

Notice how when a woman gets man gets raped, we're all (rightly) shocked, horrified, and angry; but when a man is raped it's treated at least with levity and at most as an out-and-out joke.

Both comments above (by hawkwind69 and socalsk1nhead), and even the very title of this story demonstrate this.

No means no and rape is rape.

[Edited on Aug 27, 2005 6:13PM]

proof that women's lib is not being used for honourable purposes anymore. starguitar pretty much said it, but if the sexes were reversed people would be hounding for the perpetrators' blood, but i really doubt they'll be charged. because, you know, a man can't be raped, can he??

[Edited on Aug 27, 2005 4:22PM]

indecent assault? what about rape and kidnapping?

What is the connection to women's lib here? I don't get it...

that is the dumbest thing i've read all damn day.

i edited my post.

this article is an example of how equal rights never really existed. it's just men who are getting screwed now, but noone seems to care.

Well I appreciate you filling us in a little more there, but I never connected this to "women's lib" in any way, even though you cite my comment to back up your point.

I don't want to get into the old gender debate, but I'm a little confused about the mechanics of this. If three women were to kidnap me and demand I do them at gunpoint, I doubt that I'd be able to give them what they want. Maybe the guy got into the spirit of it and was able to deliver ... but if so, wouldn't the charge be something like "unlawful detainment" rather than rape?

i apologise for my vagueness, it's 9am where i am.

Even if you are forced to get an erection, it's FORCE and therefore rape. And, yes, men have been forced to get erections before.

This logic works about as well as saying "well she obviously wanted it."

The point isn't why or how the guy did what he did, the point is that he was had no say in the matter. Rape.



[Edited on Aug 27, 2005 by louys]

Well...if a penis is stimulated it can (and likely will) become erect, even if you don't want it to.

That's the part I didn't understand. I was trying to imagine myself getting an erection at gunpoint; the mood seems all wrong.

Edited to say: But I guess it makes sense, now that you guys are explaining it. What a bad scene this sounds like.

[Edited on Aug 27, 2005 by StickyRice]

Obtaining an erection has less to do with mood, than it does with stimulation in most situations.



just read your edit.

[Edited on Aug 27, 2005 by Dizzy]

I know at least in many states here in the US rape is defined only by the most common definitions. For instance is a gay man rapes another gay man or a lesbian forces another lesbian to have sex it probably wouldn't fall under the definition of rape in most courts. So other terms come into use.

Initially I had the question about why it is indecent assault and not rape, but it was edited out. Its possible the legal definitions have specifications that this didnt meet, I just dont know what they could be.

http://www.aest.org.uk/survivors/male/myths_about_male_rape.htm

Myth: Getting an erection or ejaculation during sexual assault means you "really wanted it" or consented to it.

Reality: This is one of the things that can cause male rape survivors a lot of confusion and guilt when they do not know how things work. For a start I can honestly say that getting an erection shows nothing other than your body responds how it is suppose to do. It is a totally normal thing to happen and has nothing to do with desire. If you were penetrated, the pressure in the prostate gland (see diagram below) also will cause an erection. Anyone who has ever had a DRE (short for Digital Rectal Exam) of the prostate at their doctors will know that getting an erection often happens during the examination.

Now as far as ejaculation goes, again this is a very normal thing to have happened. In fact, the rapist will very often go out of their way to make sure that you do ejaculate, in order to try to make you more ashamed, (adds to their dominate feeling of power) and also they know it will likely reduce your chances of reporting the crime. First off, it is because it is a normal reaction to stimulation. Second, the pressure on the prostate will, by it's self, release some fluid, making the penis more sensitive to that stimulation. In fact, it is possible for a doctor to obtain a semen sample during a DRE. Pressure on the seminal vesicle will likewise release a lot of fluid, and could resemble ejaculation to some extent, although may feel different.

One other thing to remember, is that ejaculation against your will, and an orgasm when having a wanted sexual encounter are, two totally different things.

I don't find that offensive but I think it is misguided. Women's lib helped protect women's credibility when a woman has been raped and reported it to authorities. The movement has done a very good job over the past 30+ years job but even with all of the successes there remains more to do. However women's lib works specifically for issues pertaining to women. Although it succeed in creating concern for the rape of women it was never created to look after men. That should be obvious.

If you want outcry over the victimization of men there are certainly plenty of male victims out there. However its still a hazy unstudied area. As far as rape. Men are accepted into some rape crisis centers and not others but there is no academic history of male rape (whether by males or females) and little work being done to study its effects on men as they go forward in life.

That said you are correct in that there is very little in the way of defending men in certain areas. It seems as though if there is not a need for a masculine movement there should at least be a post-masculine movement. The greatest danger in my mind is that men are over extended in the area of performance and not sensual enough. For instance rape, abuse, and ex-soldiers with PTSD for instance are self -aggravating in that they feel they must at all cost perform "above" their condition and leave it unexamined or else they have failed to perform masculinity. In fact all kinds of men everywhere are suffering from this idea of performed masculinity and thus are unable to address the particular issues that are ruining their lives.

I also believe that men are not as sensual in sex as would be normal and learn to desensitize themselves over time because they are predominantly instructed to perform rather than to feel. I think its no surprise then that many men as they get much older and too weak to perform well, they've forgetton how to feel anything to do with their own pleasure for its own sake and become impotent.

Its not up to women's lib to bring these thoughts up for discussion. Its up to men like you and I.



[Edited on Aug 27, 2005 5:04PM]

Whatevs
If they had to force him at gunpoint they all probaly looked like Large Marge. I would have kicked them in the cunt.