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JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

AUG 24, 2005 11:50 AM

Global warming. Destruction of the rain forest. Depletion of fossil fuels. Whatever you do, don't forget to include mass extinction of marine life to the list of maladies currently threatening our ecosystem. Many marine biologists biologists fear that we are fast approaching a wave of marine extinctions.

For years, many scientists and regulators believed the oceans were so vast there was little risk of marine species dying out. Now, some suspect the world is on the cusp of what Ellen K. Pikitch, executive director of the Pew Institute for Ocean Science, calls "a gathering wave of ocean extinctions." Dozens of biologists believe the seas have reached a tipping point, with scores of species of ocean-dwelling fish, birds and mammals edging toward extinction. In the past 300 years, researchers have documented the global extinction of just 21 marine species -- and 16 have occurred since 1972.

Since the 1700s, another 112 species have died out in particular regions, and that trend, too, has accelerated since the mid-1960s: Nearly two dozen shark species are close to disappearing, according to the World Conservation Union, an international coalition of government and advocacy groups.

The vastness of the ocean and our relative inability to explore its depths tends to create an "out of sight, out of mind" situation regarding the state of undersea life. However, human actions have an impact on the sea just as they do terrestrially.

Large-scale fishing accounts for more than half of the documented fish extinctions in recent years, Nicholas K. Dulvy, a scientist at Lowestoft Laboratory in England, wrote in 2003. Destruction of habitats in which fish spawn or feed is responsible for another third. Warmer ocean temperatures are another threat, as some fish struggle to adapt to hotter and saltier water that can attract new competitors.

But nothing has pushed marine life to the edge of extinction more than aggressive fishing. Aided by technology -- industrial trawlers and factory ships deploy radar and sonar to scour the seas with precision and drag nets the size of jumbo jets along the sea floor -- ocean fish catches tripled between 1950 and 1992.

In some cases, fishermen have intentionally exploited species until they died out, such as the New Zealand grayling fish and the Caribbean monk seal; other species have been accidental victims of long lines or nets intended for other catches. Over the past two decades, accidental by catch alone accounted for an 89 percent decline in hammerhead sharks in the Northeast Atlantic.

It's becoming readily apparent that human beings are endangering mass quantities of marine life. The remaining question is whether steps will be taken to remedy the situation

CaffeineHeadache

CaffeineHeadache

Santa Ana, CA
October 2003

AUG 24, 2005 03:55 PM

no. no one gives a shit.

its very sad

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

AUG 24, 2005 03:57 PM

I'm sure at least some of those species will return after we've all killed each other off, if that makes you feel any better.

illrevue

illrevue

Winter Park, FL
October 2004

AUG 24, 2005 03:58 PM

I've always said that i would eat a cow before eat tuna again. its an resource thing. We cannot possibly sustain a balance when we dont allow the populations to replenish.

it really is too bad, but you know, too many people will be affected if we stop whatever

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

AUG 24, 2005 03:59 PM

That's got to, be a record, for, the most commas, ever used, in a headline. tongue

waldo

waldo

I'm lost
June 2004

AUG 24, 2005 04:03 PM

You think this is bad?
Watch when the ocean's acidity increases with carbon dioxide levels.
I don't know how bad a catastrophe that will be, but it will be a catastrophe. We're fucked and I try not to believe we deserve it.

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

AUG 24, 2005 04:16 PM

Look on the bright side, huge numbers of people will die out after a mass marine extinction too. You have to find the silver lining in these things. I'll do my part by not eating any fish and supporting the industry doing the most damage. Sweet, I'm ahead of the game, I've been doing that for 22 years already!

NinjaTech

NinjaTech

Minneapolis, MN
November 2003

AUG 24, 2005 04:17 PM

Don't worry. I'm sure the end of the world will happen long before the fledging eco-system of the ocean has anything to say about it.

pananarama

pananarama

Worcester, MA
August 2003

AUG 24, 2005 04:28 PM

Add one more name to the memorial, I took out a Cod at dinner last night!







I think the answer, at least in part, is fish farming, it is growing in poularity and is becoming easier and more fruitful an endeavor.

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

AUG 24, 2005 04:34 PM

Subrosa said:
That's got to, be a record, for, the most commas, ever used, in a headline. tongue



I was trying to think of the best way to represent that. I actually took either the one before "No" or the one before "Hey" out and switched to a period. I guess it was replaced.

gut666

gut666

Moreno Valley, CA
April 2005

AUG 24, 2005 04:40 PM

if anyone wants to know , i found a small frog, rare as it maybe , in a sink in a kitchen at this building i clean . i have no idea how it go in there since there are no creeks near by . so i put the little guy in a cup and drove it to a creek and set it free . just doing my part to save the dying amphibian species. .

waldo

waldo

I'm lost
June 2004

AUG 24, 2005 05:04 PM

thrashmaster74 said:
if anyone wants to know , i found a small frog, rare as it maybe , in a sink in a kitchen at this building i clean . i have no idea how it go in there since there are no creeks near by . so i put the little guy in a cup and drove it to a creek and set it free . just doing my part to save the dying amphibian species. .



Good for you.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 24, 2005 06:14 PM

Fish was the last thing I gave up when I became a vegetarian a few years ago, and the reports about the detrimental effects of the fishing industry on marine populations was the primary reason I did so.

Even if you don't totally give up meat (including fish), simply cutting down; eating, say, twice as many meals with no meat would have an impact.

Americans ate 16.3 pounds of fish per capita in 2003. If 1/4 of Americans cut their fish consumption down to 1/3 what they consume now, we could cut our fish consumption by over 800 million pounds of fish. If 1/4 of Americans cut their total meat consumption by half (eating twice as many meals with no meat), our total national meat consumption would drop by over 7.5 billion pounds.

[Edited on Aug 24, 2005 by bean]

Lotusmonger

Lotusmonger

Chicago, IL
May 2004

AUG 24, 2005 07:39 PM

so eat fish now before it is illegal to eat.

I don't eat fish because I hate it. I'll eat a good cow or pig though. and I loves me the poultry. too bad they all got viruses I can catch nowadays too.

CheshireCat

CheshireCat

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

AUG 24, 2005 07:40 PM

......the dominant species ...kills all other species ........

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

AUG 24, 2005 07:42 PM

Bigger market for teh salmon (whose stock Alaskans have consciously protected for decades)

[Edited on Aug 24, 2005 by stockula]

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

AUG 24, 2005 08:04 PM

stockula said:
Bigger market for teh salmon (whose stock Alaskans have consciously protected for decades)

[Edited on Aug 24, 2005 by stockula]



Good for Alaska, I imagine it took a lot of restraint on it's part to keep from swatting the salmon with it's mighty forepaws.

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

AUG 24, 2005 10:41 PM

waldo said:
We're fucked and I try not to believe we deserve it.


Don't kid yourself- we most definitely deserve everything shitty we've done to the planet. That's like saying you don't deserve to wake up with corn in your beard after you've shit your own bed.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 25, 2005 12:28 AM

stockula said:
Bigger market for teh salmon (whose stock Alaskans have consciously protected for decades)


Alaska's salmon regulations are a success story, but it's not like it's not a finite supply. A bigger market means bigger prices, which is good for Alaskan family fishermen, but does nothing to reduce reliance on other sources of fish if it's eaten in the same quantities. The market can grow, and prices can rise for awhile, but at some point the high value of Alaskan salmon is going to bring greed into conflict with sustainability.

Also, unfortunately, other Alaskan fish haven't been as lucky as the salmon.

[Edited on Aug 25, 2005 by bean]

JohnFM1

JohnFM1

United Kingdom
May 2004

AUG 25, 2005 12:39 AM

The "out of sight, our of mind" thing is so true.

But hey, at least we know tons of shit about the moon and mars now! Whos cares about this planet!?





[Edited on Aug 25, 2005 by JohnFM1]

Lior

Lior

United Kingdom
August 2005

AUG 25, 2005 07:21 AM

Poor fish...
Poor planet...

waldo

waldo

I'm lost
June 2004

AUG 25, 2005 10:21 AM

MisterSatan said:

waldo said:
We're fucked and I try not to believe we deserve it.


Don't kid yourself- we most definitely deserve everything shitty we've done to the planet. That's like saying you don't deserve to wake up with corn in your beard after you've shit your own bed.



True, and I only phrased it that way because public perception is changing. That, and to avoid the attention of the "why do you hate humanity?" flamers.

Rosscoe

Rosscoe

I'm lost
March 2005

AUG 25, 2005 10:32 AM

waldo said:

MisterSatan said:

waldo said:
We're fucked and I try not to believe we deserve it.


Don't kid yourself- we most definitely deserve everything shitty we've done to the planet. That's like saying you don't deserve to wake up with corn in your beard after you've shit your own bed.



True, and I only phrased it that way because public perception is changing. That, and to avoid the attention of the "why do you hate humanity?" flamers.



I think you just have to interact with the general public on a daily basis to figure out we deserve all that is coming towards humanity.
If people cared we could change so much, but people arent willing to give up what they have regardless if they need it or not.

SurfBetty

SurfBetty

Atlantic Beach, FL
December 2003

AUG 25, 2005 10:40 AM

Tell me something I don't know...but humans are also working towards conserving marine life too. Like with the work I do for example, also my father is on the state board for artificial reef building and they have been able to create enviroments and habitats to restore and maintain marine life. So some people are at least trying.

[Edited on Aug 25, 2005 by _Wahine_]

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

AUG 25, 2005 11:09 AM

waldo said:

MisterSatan said:

waldo said:
We're fucked and I try not to believe we deserve it.


Don't kid yourself- we most definitely deserve everything shitty we've done to the planet. That's like saying you don't deserve to wake up with corn in your beard after you've shit your own bed.



True, and I only phrased it that way because public perception is changing.


Changing to what? I'm not being a dick, I just don't understand what you mean.

That, and to avoid the attention of the "why do you hate humanity?" flamers.


Now THAT I fully understand.

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