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Snottlebocket

Snottlebocket

Netherlands
March 2004

AUG 08, 2005 07:58 AM

Looks like India can no longer claim the monopoly on inexhaustible tomes of sexual education.

A Russian antiquarian accidentally stumbled across a book that appears to be something of a
Russian Kamasutra. When Mikhail Surov bought two ancient church books for his collection he also got a small book describing all kinds of sexual activities ranging from various positions to tips on crafting dildos from household supplies. The book was most likely used by clergy to classify sexual sins and determine the proper penance.



An unknown author of the 18th-century book described all possible types of sex and sexual relations. The stories are presented in the form of questions, which priests were asking wound-be monks and nuns in monasteries and convents. The author mentioned almost all, sometimes unimaginable sexual activities, including anal and oral sex, women's and men's masturbation, etc.

"In addition to plain descriptions, the book contains a selection of instructions and recommendations for people to clear their sex sins. There is a prayer, which is supposed to be read out from 400 to 800 times, depending on the extent of the sin," the Russian collector said.


I think it would be really interesting to see how this book compares to the Asian kamasutra.

Both books seem quite exhaustive on sexual activity but the very different intentions and cultural backgrounds of the books might make for a interesting comparison.

Sticks

Sticks

United Kingdom
June 2011

AUG 08, 2005 02:06 PM


The author mentioned almost all, sometimes unimaginable sexual activities, including anal and oral sex, women's and men's masturbation, etc.



I wonder if this is where Dr Reuben got his ideas from?

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

AUG 08, 2005 02:10 PM

SqueakyB said:


The author mentioned almost all, sometimes unimaginable sexual activities, including anal and oral sex, women's and men's masturbation, etc.



I wonder if this is where Dr Reuben got his ideas from?



Oral sex?! Well I, for one, am shocked. Shocked!

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

AUG 08, 2005 02:14 PM

Excellent title.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

AUG 08, 2005 02:36 PM

So what you do when you're not allowed to have sex for your entire life, you spend your time imagining it, writing about it, thinking about it, cataloging it, classifying it... in the interest of good Christian living, of course.

Sticks

Sticks

United Kingdom
June 2011

AUG 08, 2005 02:45 PM

Keith said:
So what you do when you're not allowed to have sex for your entire life, you spend your time imagining it, writing about it, thinking about it, cataloging it, classifying it... in the interest of good Christian living, of course.



BiggerThenBen

BiggerThenBen

Antarctica
June 2005

AUG 08, 2005 05:40 PM

If the Russian book is a product of the Russian orthodox church as a book on a the sinfulness of sex and penance for such sins.

18th century Russia was still in the Feudal dark ages at the time of the this books creation.

It would be expected that the Russian text would be very different in style and tone then the Kama Sutra. Which came out of very different cultural context.

The Kama Sutra came out of a hedonist period of Indian royal court life, written by a famous Indian author. Before the invasion of Islamic and English forces who brought their own and far more repressive interpretation to human sexuality.

Having read the unabridged Kama Sutra without pictures I can assure you that it has little concept of sin, but rather sees sex as a celebration of life and creation itself.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 08, 2005 06:05 PM

StarBelliedBoy said:
Excellent title.


Well, technically it should be "In Soviet Russia..."

Somehow it just doesn't have the same ring to it otherwise.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

AUG 08, 2005 06:10 PM

Since when are anal sex and masturbation "unimaginable"?

Darke

Darke

Columbia, MO
June 2005

AUG 08, 2005 06:37 PM

Thistle said:
Since when are anal sex and masturbation "unimaginable"?



Excellent question... there truly is nothing new under the sun... Personally, I think people way back when were far more daring and intense than modern day immoralists. Those people made their art and had their sex believing that they were damning themselves even as they indulged their cravings.

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

AUG 08, 2005 06:42 PM

bean said:

StarBelliedBoy said:
Excellent title.


Well, technically it should be "In Soviet Russia..."

Somehow it just doesn't have the same ring to it otherwise.


It should probably have an exclamation point, too, but I got the point, and it was enjoyable.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

AUG 08, 2005 07:03 PM

if you are pure of heart and not a sinner, this book will not arouse you. kind of like when people claim not to wank to SGs

edaniel

edaniel

New York, NY
February 2005

AUG 08, 2005 08:05 PM

It seems to me that I've seen reference to similar types of guides for the early modern period in Europe as well, produced in the 16th-17th centuries. Again, they were meant to be guides for priests relating to degrees of sin and penances for confession. They are just one more example of the dirty secrets of the Roman Catholic Church.

grahf

grahf

New York, NY
September 2002

AUG 08, 2005 09:42 PM

Thistle said:
Since when are anal sex and masturbation "unimaginable"?



I doubt the examples they gave were in the unimaginable category. The book probably had armpit sex in it or something, or just bizarre positions that the average fucker is just extremely unlikely to think up.

SovietCanada

sovietcanada

Montreal, QC
February 2005

AUG 08, 2005 10:13 PM

bean said:

StarBelliedBoy said:
Excellent title.


Well, technically it should be "In Soviet Russia..."

Somehow it just doesn't have the same ring to it otherwise.



Technically, its been played to death. tongue

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

AUG 08, 2005 11:31 PM

sovietcanada said:

bean said:

StarBelliedBoy said:
Excellent title.


Well, technically it should be "In Soviet Russia..."

Somehow it just doesn't have the same ring to it otherwise.



Technically, its been played to death. tongue


It could be worse...
"Why Are 18th c. Russian Nuns Such Fucking Assholes?"
"Why Were 18th c. Russian Nuns Literally Fucking Assholes?"

wink

Snottlebocket

Snottlebocket

Netherlands
March 2004

AUG 09, 2005 09:56 AM

you know, i never heard or found out what the origin of that soviet russia thing is, all i know is that it still makes me smile when i hear it.

Idjit

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

AUG 09, 2005 10:02 AM


There is quite an innocent question in the book; the question is addressed to a female: "Did you stuff the bag with porridge? As it turns out, ancient Russians were making artificial penises with the help of this method," Mikhail Surov said.



Ahhhh... finally the mystery of being called "porridge dick" is solved.

SovietCanada

sovietcanada

Montreal, QC
February 2005

AUG 09, 2005 01:08 PM

Snottlebocket said:
you know, i never heard or found out what the origin of that soviet russia thing is, all i know is that it still makes me smile when i hear it.



It was Simpsons or Futurama or something like that. Anyways, I'm pretty sure it came from the mind of Matt Groening.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

AUG 09, 2005 01:11 PM

sovietcanada said:

Snottlebocket said:
you know, i never heard or found out what the origin of that soviet russia thing is, all i know is that it still makes me smile when i hear it.



It was Simpsons or Futurama or something like that. Anyways, I'm pretty sure it came from the mind of Matt Groening.



I'm pretty sure you couldn't be more wrong. Google "Yakov Smirnoff".


Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

AUG 09, 2005 01:13 PM

And the irony of someone with Lenin as his profile pic and the word "soviet" in his username not knowing that is delicious.

SovietCanada

sovietcanada

Montreal, QC
February 2005

AUG 09, 2005 01:20 PM

Not as delicious as you may presume.

Keith

Keith

Oklahoma City, OK
August 2002

AUG 09, 2005 01:21 PM

In Soviet Canada, delicious presumes you!

Sticks

Sticks

United Kingdom
June 2011

AUG 09, 2005 01:21 PM

Keith said:

sovietcanada said:

Snottlebocket said:
you know, i never heard or found out what the origin of that soviet russia thing is, all i know is that it still makes me smile when i hear it.



It was Simpsons or Futurama or something like that. Anyways, I'm pretty sure it came from the mind of Matt Groening.



I'm pretty sure you couldn't be more wrong. Google "Yakov Smirnoff".



Yakov appears in the Simpsons episode where Grandpa steals Homer's car to impress a ladyfriend. They end up in Branson watching a revue full of past-it stars.

"In Russia, stage is for performers only!" tongue

SovietCanada

sovietcanada

Montreal, QC
February 2005

AUG 09, 2005 01:26 PM

To quote wikipedia, in reference to the "In Soviet Russia" joke:

"There are also instances of this joke appearing on the The Simpsons (DABF09, "The Old Man and the Key")."

Linky.

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