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dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

AUG 02, 2005 03:38 AM

There's a confusing argument between four Scottish cities. They're each claiming that Montgomery Scott --Scottie-- from Star Trek will be born there in the year 2222.

Willie Dunn, the West Lothian councillor who announced plans for the Linlithgow plaque ten days ago, was only half joking yesterday as he accused councils in Aberdeen, Elgin and Edinburgh of “boldly clinging on to our coat-tails”.

Just two weeks after the death of James Doohan, the Canadian-born actor famous for his character’s flustered cry of “I dinnae know if she can take it any more, Captain”, Mr Dunn said that he would not be shaken from his belief that Scotty was from Linlithgow. He said: “I’m sure everybody and their dog will try to get in on the act. We have information that Scotty was born here in 2222, and then he moved to Aberdeen for a while.

“Fair do’s to Aberdeen, you can see where their claim comes from, but Edinburgh or Elgin? I’m not so sure.”


Other people aren't convinced by Linlitgow's claims.

In Aberdeen, where local Star Trek fans claim that Scotty was born in the city’s Constitution Street, and in 2120 not 2222, Pamela MacDonald, the council’s education and leisure leader, said that it should consider a statue of its own.

According to the official Star Trek website, Scotty refers to himself in one episode of the science fiction show as an “Aberdeen pub crawler”.


Edinburgh's claim seems tenuous. They're not citing the scripts or interviews with the actor but the website Scifi.com

Edinburgh’s claim is based on the popular Scifi.com website, which records Scotty’s birthplace as “Edinburgh, Earth”. Lesley Hinds, the city’s Lord Provost, said: “This is something we need to look into. If he really is from Edinburgh then we shouldn’t let any of these other places claim him, and we should put up something in recognition of his Edinburgh connections.”


Elgin seems to have a stronger claim.

As for Elgin, its bid is based on an interview with Doohan himself, who said that Scotty came from “Elgin, near Aberdeen”.

Menelvagor

Menelvagor

Columbus, OH
March 2004

AUG 03, 2005 04:04 AM

Alright. Get out of your parents' basement, plzkthnx

crackedhead

crackedhead

San Jose, CA
September 2004

AUG 03, 2005 04:29 AM

See, this is what happens when those wacky Scots stop drinking. Or drink too much.

Ems

Ems

United Kingdom
July 2004

AUG 03, 2005 04:44 AM

Woo. Elgin.

Now that's probably the first and last time my birthplace will ever get mentioned on the internet. Ever.

But really, this arguement is like where does Santa come from.

James_

James_

United Kingdom
March 2003

AUG 03, 2005 04:52 AM

Emmy said:
But really, this arguement is like where does Santa come from.



do people dispute that he comes from lapland, then? eeek

Ems

Ems

United Kingdom
July 2004

AUG 03, 2005 04:55 AM

When I was wee we were always told he came from the north pole...

crackedhead

crackedhead

San Jose, CA
September 2004

AUG 03, 2005 04:58 AM

James_ said:

Emmy said:
But really, this arguement is like where does Santa come from.



do people dispute that he comes from lapland, then? eeek




Everyone knows that Santa lives on the moon and his real name is Annual Gift Man.

MistressMissy

mistressmissy

Grand Rapids, MI
March 2003

AUG 03, 2005 05:04 AM

oh my gawd. those people need to get a life and quickly.

Huck

Huck

United Kingdom
July 2004

AUG 03, 2005 05:35 AM

MistressMissy said:
oh my gawd. those people need to get a life and quickly.



i think it's sweet

but then i am a Star Trek (excluding Enterprise) fan, and scornful of non-believers

Smithers, release the hounds

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

AUG 03, 2005 05:54 AM

Huck said:

MistressMissy said:
oh my gawd. those people need to get a life and quickly.



i think it's sweet


Me, too. It's not like it's vicious, and they seem to be having fun. It's just a show of affection for a much loved and popular character combined with a little local pride.

Rosscoe

Rosscoe

I'm lost
March 2005

AUG 03, 2005 06:01 AM

Arguments and future (and fictional) births.

In some way this is just so bizarre it becomes fantastic.

artificial

artificial

Ottawa, ON
July 2005

AUG 03, 2005 06:13 AM

i'd hate to be that poor child.

Wren

Wren

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

AUG 03, 2005 06:24 AM

Hee hee. How wierd. I bet James Doohan would've gotten a kick out of this whole thing.

ericsykespistols

ericsykespistols

United Kingdom
June 2005

AUG 03, 2005 06:53 AM

People of Scotland, this is what your tax money goes on.
I like the gratuitous science bit pasted on the end to give it some substance.

[Edited on Aug 03, 2005 6:53AM]

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

AUG 03, 2005 06:55 AM

I'd adopt a "wait and see" approach to the issue.

Idjit

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

AUG 03, 2005 07:04 AM

I believe the proper syntax for this question is "Scottie: Where willonhavenbeen born?"

JohnFM1

JohnFM1

United Kingdom
May 2004

AUG 03, 2005 07:06 AM

Where and when was Kirk born then?

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

AUG 03, 2005 07:36 AM

JohnFM1 said:
Where and when was Kirk born then?


Somewhere in Iowa. The town of Riverside claimed him, with Rodenbery's consent. So, that's the real solution - let Majel decide.

skeptik

skeptik

New Orleans, LA
February 2004

AUG 03, 2005 08:13 AM

Which is also the town being punked (and the reason for the punking) on the show "Invasion Iowa." By Shatner, et al.


[Edited on Aug 03, 2005 by skeptik]

Wannie

Wannie

Kingston, ON
March 2004

AUG 03, 2005 08:55 AM

Idjiit said:
I believe the proper syntax for this question is "Scottie: Where willonhavenbeen born?"



Ahh, yes, the authoritative Dan Streetmentioner tome, eh? Never made it past chapter 1.
(I think that name is right, I didn't even look it up; have I read HHGTTG too many times?)

Also, Santa Claus is Canadian, he lives on Baffin Island.

trich

trich

United Kingdom
July 2005

AUG 03, 2005 01:22 PM

I am from linlithgow. *looks geeky and proud*

thorr74

thorr74

Sylvan Lake, AB
December 2004

AUG 03, 2005 01:36 PM

James_ said:

Emmy said:
But really, this arguement is like where does Santa come from.



do people dispute that he comes from lapland, then? eeek



North Pole....hence Canadian.....the end

Innocence

Innocence

United Kingdom
November 2003

AUG 03, 2005 01:40 PM

Ha. Hahahahaha. Hahahahahahaha.
That is all biggrin

Holy_Mountain

Holy_Mountain

West Palm Beach, FL
February 2004

AUG 03, 2005 01:46 PM

Just when I thought that I've heard the dorkiest thing ever haha.

jetsabel

jetsabel

Columbus, OH
July 2004

AUG 03, 2005 04:41 PM

apesamongus said:

JohnFM1 said:
Where and when was Kirk born then?


Somewhere in Iowa. The town of Riverside claimed him, with Rodenbery's consent. So, that's the real solution - let Majel decide.



I can confirm this. I live by Riverside and it is just an excuse for a TrekFest to be held.

Plus, William Shatner filmed Invasion Iowa there.

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