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dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 06, 2005 04:32 AM

There's a lot of news from China recently about problems that some people have with the Internet. So much news that I'm starting to wonder whether it's a concentrated propaganda campaign.

The youths are patients at China's first officially licensed clinic for Internet addiction, a downside of the online frenzy that has accompanied the nation's breathtaking economic boom.

"All the children here have left school because they are playing games or in chat rooms everyday," says the clinic's director, Dr. Tao Ran. "They are suffering from depression, nervousness, fear and unwillingness to interact with others, panic and agitation. They also have sleep disorders, the shakes and numbness in their hands."


That sounds a bit like "Reefer Madness" hysteria. Many of the reports come from Chinese state media. Some of the treatment sounds a bit scary.

The routine begins around 6 a.m. and includes sessions on a machine that stimulates nerve impulses with 30-volt charges to pressure points.

Some patients receive a clear fluid through intravenous drips said to "adjust the unbalanced status of brain secretions," according to one nurse. Officials would not give any other details about the medication.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUL 06, 2005 06:56 AM

Well, yours is certainly the most sensationalistic, slanted view I've seen of this clinic yet. Well done, dem_z.

There are lots of discussions of the "internet addiction" phenomenon that have nothing to do with China and their new clinic. It's not a new thing, it's not a Chinese thing -- they're just the first ones to actually start a clinic for it.

The "media frenzy" of "propaganda" created by "China"? You mean the fact that an Associated Press writer went to Beijing, visited this clinic, wrote the story, and put it on the AP wire to be picked up by AP wire subscribers and published as news in their publications, and then the story was picked up by bloggers and rebroadcast?

So the Associated Press is now "Chinese propaganda"?



[Edited on Jul 06, 2005 by Shalome]

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

JUL 06, 2005 07:33 AM

OMFG WE'RE ALL ADDICTED!!!!!!!

Seriously. This kind of thing sounds like my middle-aged roommate who's in Alcoholics Anonymous. To him, anything someone does for more than ten minutes at a time is "addictive behavior", even if you're sitting on the crapper. Not to mention that the internet is a recent phenomenon in China, compared to the rest of the world. Maybe they're just trying to catch up.

LyloniJade

LyloniJade

Madison, WI
May 2004

JUL 06, 2005 07:43 AM

Hey, this is great news. I thought I was addicted to the internet. I can't wait for the shakes to start.


*waiting for the shakes*

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUL 06, 2005 07:50 AM

MisterSatan said:
OMFG WE'RE ALL ADDICTED!!!!!!!

Seriously. This kind of thing sounds like my middle-aged roommate who's in Alcoholics Anonymous. To him, anything someone does for more than ten minutes at a time is "addictive behavior", even if you're sitting on the crapper. Not to mention that the internet is a recent phenomenon in China, compared to the rest of the world. Maybe they're just trying to catch up.




Did you read the article?

"All the children here have left school because they are playing games or in chat rooms everyday," says the clinic's director, Dr. Tao Ran.



"I wasn't normal," said a 20-year-old man from Beijing who used to spend at least 10 hours a day in front of the screen playing hack-and-slash games like Diablo.



The 12-year-old, a new arrival, spent four days in an Internet cafe, barely eating or sleeping.



A soft-spoken 21-year-old man from northeastern Heilongjiang province who had been in the clinic for 10 days said his addiction had helped him escape from family pressures about his studies.

"I would stay up for 24 hours. I would eat only in front of the computer," he said.



Vampirate

Vampirate

Durham, NC
October 2004

JUL 06, 2005 07:59 AM

"They are suffering from depression, nervousness, fear and unwillingness to interact with others, panic and agitation. They also have sleep disorders, the shakes and numbness in their hands."


These sound like the normal symptoms of living under a terrifyingly oppressive regime to me.

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 06, 2005 08:10 AM

Shalome said:
So the Associated Press is now "Chinese propaganda"?


Bold added for the hard-of-reading:

State media has also highlighted cases of obsessed Internet gamers, some of whom have flunked out of school, committed suicide or murder.



whatever

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 06, 2005 09:43 AM

Shalome said:

MisterSatan said:
OMFG WE'RE ALL ADDICTED!!!!!!!

Seriously. This kind of thing sounds like my middle-aged roommate who's in Alcoholics Anonymous. To him, anything someone does for more than ten minutes at a time is "addictive behavior", even if you're sitting on the crapper. Not to mention that the internet is a recent phenomenon in China, compared to the rest of the world. Maybe they're just trying to catch up.


Did you read the article?

"All the children here have left school because they are playing games or in chat rooms everyday," says the clinic's director, Dr. Tao Ran.

"I wasn't normal," said a 20-year-old man from Beijing who used to spend at least 10 hours a day in front of the screen playing hack-and-slash games like Diablo.

The 12-year-old, a new arrival, spent four days in an Internet cafe, barely eating or sleeping.

A soft-spoken 21-year-old man from northeastern Heilongjiang province who had been in the clinic for 10 days said his addiction had helped him escape from family pressures about his studies.

"I would stay up for 24 hours. I would eat only in front of the computer," he said.


Because China grants free unfettered access to all journalists? China has no history of strict control over print media, and no history of control of the Internet? The Chinese government doesn't run the largest firewall in the world, and doesn't
shut down websites that have not registered with regulators? China does not censor people or imprison anyone who expresses dissenting opinion? China doesn't shoot student protestors? China has excellent, up to date, treatment for people with mental health problems?

It is beyond the realm of possibilty that China would use state media to create scare stories about a media that they find hard to control, because no oppressive totalitarian regime has ever done anything like that before.

whatever

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUL 06, 2005 09:49 AM

So, since China censors things, an Associated Press writer didn't talk to doctors and patients at the clinic and just published what China told them to?

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 06, 2005 10:27 AM

Shalome said:
So, since China censors things, an Associated Press writer didn't talk to doctors and patients at the clinic and just published what China told them to?


You're missing the point: Chinese state media is releasing stories about Internet addiction. Why is Chinese state media concentrating on Internet addiction?

You know China has extensive firewalling. You know China has state run filtering of the Internet. you know that providers of services have tailored them to be suitable for China.


China introduces new rules to stop games being harmful to the young

Here's a big quote from the above link, because it says pretty much everything:

China was to release a set of new rules to vet the content of online games as part of a campaign to combat their harmful influences on the young, State media said.

Under new rules drawn up by the Ministry of Culture and the Ministry of Information Industry to be released soon, game manufacturers were required to revise game rules that might lead to addiction, it said.

The two ministries will also recommend a number of healthy premium games endorsed by the government to youngsters during the summer vacation. Players of online games are mostly people under 35 years old, Zhang Xinjian, an official with the Ministry of Culture, was quoted as saying. These people are prone to the negative influences of sex, violence and other types of unhealthy content of online games.

The report quoted the example of a 13-year-old boy who leaped to his death from a 24-floor building in a flying posture, after leaving a note saying he was joining three friends, who were characters of an online game.

The Ministry of Culture has already banned 50 electronic games earlier this year, including FIFA Soccer 2005 and Microsoft's Age of Mythology.


So, this quote has an infamous "think of the children!", it then goes on to show that games are being censored by the Chinese government, that the Chinese government is going to tell people which games are "good", it throws in a bit about a boy with mental health problems (even though extreme cases make bad law) and it finishes with some examples of EVIL games which have been banned. FIFA Soccer might be shit, but I can't see how it causes people to throw themselves off buildings.

When an oppressive regime removes children from school and puts them into mental health hospitals (are they voluntary patients? What does voluntary mean in a country like China?) because those children have been playing computer games I start to worry. China did the same to followers of Falun Gong.

But let's imagine that China is right and that people with traditional mental health problems are different and easily distinguishable from people with "Internet addiction"; is quackery the right answer? What mental health meds are administered by drip?

How are people selected for this new clinic?

The company plans to survey teenagers from 38 schools in 18 districts, together with the city's Communist Youth League, which oversees affairs for teenagers.



Chinese media has many references to "unhealthy foreign influences". How many Chinese media sites do you read daily? (ie: are you qualified to comment about "media frenzy"?)

Shen Qiyun, a professor at Beijing Normal University, who has studied the influence on teenagers of such games since 2001, said that currently 80 per cent of computer games are imported from abroad, half of which are related to a "demon world," martial arts and violence, which are not healthy influences on teenagers.



http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-06/07/content_3053936.htm

The Information Times reported on February 23, 2005 that 30 percent of the marriage troubles in Guangzhou were caused by on-line love affairs.

Some judges from district courts of Changsha City, Hunan Province, believed that the on-line marriage has become a dangerous "killer" of marriage and families in real life.



Chinese state media gives undue importance to articles that mention heavy internet use and mental health problems, certainly much more than western media.

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

JUL 06, 2005 10:53 AM

Shalome said:

MisterSatan said:
OMFG WE'RE ALL ADDICTED!!!!!!!

Seriously. This kind of thing sounds like my middle-aged roommate who's in Alcoholics Anonymous. To him, anything someone does for more than ten minutes at a time is "addictive behavior", even if you're sitting on the crapper. Not to mention that the internet is a recent phenomenon in China, compared to the rest of the world. Maybe they're just trying to catch up.


Did you read the article?


No, I just wanted to bitch about my roommate.

Shal

Shal

Los Angeles, CA
October 2002

JUL 06, 2005 11:52 AM

MisterSatan said:

Shalome said:

MisterSatan said:
OMFG WE'RE ALL ADDICTED!!!!!!!

Seriously. This kind of thing sounds like my middle-aged roommate who's in Alcoholics Anonymous. To him, anything someone does for more than ten minutes at a time is "addictive behavior", even if you're sitting on the crapper. Not to mention that the internet is a recent phenomenon in China, compared to the rest of the world. Maybe they're just trying to catch up.


Did you read the article?


No, I just wanted to bitch about my roommate.



Understandable. Carry on. biggrin

Chaotika

Chaotika

SUICIDEGIRL

Nevada, USA

JUL 07, 2005 06:48 AM

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*heehee*

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

JUL 07, 2005 07:09 AM

Shalome said:

MisterSatan said:
No, I just wanted to bitch about my roommate.



Understandable. Carry on. biggrin


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