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line47

line47

Louisville, KY
February 2005

JUL 05, 2005 05:49 PM

Student loan debt.
any advice on how to get out of it?

like 20K + in debt and struggling to make it...

help....! miao!!

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

JUL 05, 2005 05:52 PM

fake your death.

I am pretty much in the same place you are in, with $2000 in credit card debt as well. It sucks. I suggest getting a job with a lot of overtime. . .

line47

line47

Louisville, KY
February 2005

JUL 05, 2005 05:58 PM

yeh. thinking about getting a part-time job for the weekends.
*sigh*

[Edited on Jul 05, 2005 by the_chokers]

Manchester_Black

Manchester_Black

Edmonton, AB
March 2004

JUL 05, 2005 06:22 PM

Turn to a life of crime- you'll either make so much money that you'll be able to pay the bill in no time, or you'll end up dead or in jail which will essentially make it impossible for them to collect.

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

JUL 05, 2005 06:23 PM

Manchester_Black said:
Turn to a life of crime- you'll either make so much money that you'll be able to pay the bill in no time, or you'll end up dead or in jail which will essentially make it impossible for them to collect.


You see? THAT'S a plan people! He's grabbing life by the balls. By the balls.

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

JUL 05, 2005 06:27 PM

By the time I'm done with school I will be looking at 120k in debt. And I know what you're thinking; that's a lot of blood and semen Bastard, how will you manage?
Creatine, and mangoes is all I'll say.

Samantha

Samantha

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 05, 2005 06:29 PM

i'm in the same postition... it sucks, but it was worth it.
get a job if you don't already have one.
if you have multiple loans, get them consolidated.
pay off as much as you can afford, even if that means overtime hours and living off of beans. my mother's boyfriend is STILL paying his off... he's in his late forties.
a job for the weekends though? are you still in school? if you are a full time student, you shouldn't have to make payments. the loan will be frozen without interest accumulating... i think it has to, legally.
are you sure you even need to be worrying about this right now?
depending on what your degree is in (agriculture, water treatment, medical, most sciences, education), you may think about joining the Peace Corps. i know they help pay for school, and may negotiate loan payments too. how does a year in El Salvador or Uganda sound to you? the application process takes nine months to a year, though.

Samantha

Samantha

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 05, 2005 06:31 PM

TheBastard said:
By the time I'm done with school I will be looking at 120k in debt. And I know what you're thinking; that's a lot of blood and semen Bastard, how will you manage?
Creatine, and mangoes is all I'll say.


you should just join one of those supper clubs. wink

Ada

Ada

SUICIDEGIRL

Maryland, USA

JUL 05, 2005 06:42 PM

CONSOLIDATE your loans if you haven't already. You'll get locked in at a low, set interest-rate. Interest rates are going up at some point this month! Do it now! You'll save tons of money. You can usually choose some sort of payment plan when you do this-- I just consolidated my $10k in loans and have a plan where I'm paying like $30 a month for the next 3 years and $80 a month after that. I make barely any money, but I can handle $30 a month, and (hopefully!) in a few years I'll be making more money. I got an interest rate of like 3.3%. If you make a year or so of payments all on time, they drop the interest rate even lower.

I know I sound like a fucking commercial or something, but my mom used to work in college financial aid, and she bugged the shit out of me until I consolidated my loans. It's really important! Do it!

And when you can afford more than the minmum monthly payment, go ahead and pay more. Tell them you want the extra money to be applied toward the principal of the loan, otherwise they just apply it to the interest and it doesn't get you anywhere as far as paying it off quicker.

Don't default! It's really really bad. Worse than just bad credit. I have awful credit-- several old credit cards that are in collections. But bad credit can be overcome. Defaulting on your student loans is way more serious.

Caligula_ODM

Caligula_ODM

Newport, RI
March 2005

JUL 05, 2005 06:46 PM

"getting out of debt" not possible in the united states. well, almost not possible. this country wants you to be in debt. when your in debt, your a good little worker bee. when your a good little worker bee, your part of the middle class. when the majority is in the middle class, the country is stable. you know, homeowners with suv's, credit cards, students with big student loans, blah blah blah. people in debt.

just my opinion.

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

JUL 05, 2005 06:47 PM

Caligula_ODM said:
"getting out of debt" not possible in the united states. well, almost not possible. this country wants you to be in debt. when your in debt, your a good little worker bee. when your a good little worker bee, your part of the middle class. when the majority is in the middle class, the country is stable. you know, homeowners with suv's, credit cards, students with big student loans, blah blah blah. people in debt.

just my opinion.



damn the man. . .

Idjit

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

JUL 05, 2005 06:49 PM

Caligula_ODM said:
"getting out of debt" not possible in the united states. well, almost not possible. this country wants you to be in debt. when your in debt, your a good little worker bee. when your a good little worker bee, your part of the middle class. when the majority is in the middle class, the country is stable. you know, homeowners with suv's, credit cards, students with big student loans, blah blah blah. people in debt.

just my opinion.



If you said "shoot yourself", your advice would have been just a tad more helpful.

pmonkeyEsquire

pmonkeyEsquire

I'm lost
May 2004

JUL 05, 2005 06:50 PM

Hey, Choky. I'm student loan debt 12 grand!!! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! can i join the club?????

OldZork

OldZork

Victoria, BC
November 2004

JUL 05, 2005 06:52 PM

Samantha's suggestion of loan consolidation is a good one (as is her comment on your current status... still a student? Get government support...). Beyond that...

Two basic choices: pay it off, or declare bankruptcy. That's really what it comes down to. The "fake own death" and "life of crime" suggestions are of limited value... the banks know about these ideas, and will likely figure out what you're doing... wink Marrying rich... well, good luck! wink

If you consolidate your debt with a particular bank, and put in a bit of work to convince them that you're a good credit risk, it should be no problem to negotiate sensible terms. As long as they believe you're not a complete asshole, they *want* to negotiate good terms... the longer you take to pay the debt, the more money they make in interest! So negotiate easy terms... a few bucks a month, even if it's a *lot* of months, is better than promising payments that you won't be able to meet.

The other option (bankruptcy) is not great. It'll stain you for life. Really. 50 years from now, people won't want to lend you money because you defaulted on loans now. Better to work out *some* kind of terms now, and keep your credit record more or less clean.

Or win the lottery... that would work too. Let me know if you figure out how... wink

Edited to add: DO pay attention to Ada's comments. DO NOT pay attention to Caligula_ODM's advice. It will get you nowhere (nowhere good, anyway).

[Edited on Jul 05, 2005 by Zork]

Caligula_ODM

Caligula_ODM

Newport, RI
March 2005

JUL 05, 2005 06:54 PM

Idjiit said:

Caligula_ODM said:
"getting out of debt" not possible in the united states. well, almost not possible. this country wants you to be in debt. when your in debt, your a good little worker bee. when your a good little worker bee, your part of the middle class. when the majority is in the middle class, the country is stable. you know, homeowners with suv's, credit cards, students with big student loans, blah blah blah. people in debt.

just my opinion.



If you said "shoot yourself", your advice would have been just a tad more helpful.



yeah i know, a little long winded. sorry. hey kid...just shoot yourself.

patissier

patissier

I'm lost
June 2005

JUL 05, 2005 06:56 PM

i just started to pay back my student loans, it's bleek. the worst part is that now that i'm actually paying off debt all of my past running is catching up. with in three months i've had 2 old phone companies, credit cards, and hospital bills i never paid, because i was dirt poor, all contact me saying they're going to sue. i've actually almost paid the fuckers off, but shit it's like they all know each other.

the worst part is i'm trying to move out to portland, or. this is delaying me.

i fuck myself.

datsun

datsun

Richmond, CA
October 2004

JUL 05, 2005 07:00 PM

have you checked the Credit Cards group? It's not super busy, but you might be able to get some good suggestions. smile

Olivia

Olivia

Emeryville, CA
May 2002

JUL 05, 2005 07:01 PM

patissier said:
i just started to pay back my student loans, it's bleek. the worst part is that now that i'm actually paying off debt all of my past running is catching up. with in three months i've had 2 old phone companies, credit cards, and hospital bills i never paid, because i was dirt poor, all contact me saying they're going to sue. i've actually almost paid the fuckers off, but shit it's like they all know each other.

the worst part is i'm trying to move out to portland, or. this is delaying me.

i fuck myself.



This is exactly why the nice lady a few posts up recommended consolidating your loans.

patissier

patissier

I'm lost
June 2005

JUL 05, 2005 07:06 PM

i did consolidate, however it's just for the student loans and dosen't start for a couple months. it's just a drag to sit down and really look at how much you owe.

Caligula_ODM

Caligula_ODM

Newport, RI
March 2005

JUL 05, 2005 07:13 PM

Zork said:
Samantha's suggestion of loan consolidation is a good one (as is her comment on your current status... still a student? Get government support...). Beyond that...

Two basic choices: pay it off, or declare bankruptcy. That's really what it comes down to. The "fake own death" and "life of crime" suggestions are of limited value... the banks know about these ideas, and will likely figure out what you're doing... wink Marrying rich... well, good luck! wink

If you consolidate your debt with a particular bank, and put in a bit of work to convince them that you're a good credit risk, it should be no problem to negotiate sensible terms. As long as they believe you're not a complete asshole, they *want* to negotiate good terms... the longer you take to pay the debt, the more money they make in interest! So negotiate easy terms... a few bucks a month, even if it's a *lot* of months, is better than promising payments that you won't be able to meet.

The other option (bankruptcy) is not great. It'll stain you for life. Really. 50 years from now, people won't want to lend you money because you defaulted on loans now. Better to work out *some* kind of terms now, and keep your credit record more or less clean.

Or win the lottery... that would work too. Let me know if you figure out how... wink

Edited to add: DO pay attention to Ada's comments. DO NOT pay attention to Caligula_ODM's advice. It will get you nowhere (nowhere good, anyway).

[Edited on Jul 05, 2005 by Zork]


you know, when you posted your comment, i didnt offer any advice. i voiced my opinion.

pmonkeyEsquire

pmonkeyEsquire

I'm lost
May 2004

JUL 05, 2005 07:14 PM

the club is open...

djames

djames

Nashville, TN
May 2005

JUL 05, 2005 07:17 PM

Student loans are one of the few things you can't discharge in bankruptcy so that's not really an option.

Someone recommended paying more than the minmum monthly payment when you can afford it. Although that might otherwise be a good idea, the odds are by the time you are making more money, you'll have higher interest rate debts (credit cards, mortgage, car, etc.) so you'd be better off paying those down first. The one good thing about students loans is they're usually at pretty low interest rates.

My best advice is don't borrow more than you absolutely need. Its easy to do while in college when you don't really understand that you do have to pay all that money back. Consolidating is also usually a good idea so you only have one payment rather than several a month. Just make sure you get as low an interest rate as possible.

Flannery

Flannery

Havertown, PA
March 2004

JUL 05, 2005 07:59 PM

djames said:
Someone recommended paying more than the minmum monthly payment when you can afford it. Although that might otherwise be a good idea, the odds are by the time you are making more money, you'll have higher interest rate debts (credit cards, mortgage, car, etc.) so you'd be better off paying those down first. The one good thing about students loans is they're usually at pretty low interest rates.



what i was gonna say - you'll never find cheaper money

SupremePizzaMan

SupremePizzaMan

Seattle, WA
September 2003

JUL 05, 2005 08:10 PM

First off, $20,000 isn't that much, and you must have some crazy payment plans if that's too much. Or a crumby job. I have around $55,000 and payment minimum is only around $180ish a month. That works to about 45 dollars a week, that's not so difficult to budget out.

I don't know what kind of loans these are, federal or private. Sallie Mae can consolodate federal loans, I couldn't consolodate a loan from a private bank though. You can do this online at http://salliemae.com/.

THEN, if those payments are too much right now, you can apply for a forbearance, also online, and you'll get 6 months of no payment time, but the intrest still piles up.

Basically be smart with your money, do you keep a budget? You should know the prices or ranges of most of your bills, and hopefully know your income. That way you know where you stand way before the end of the month, and can plan ahead if you need to save a few extra bucks. Seriously, $20,000, that's nothing. Paying that off in less that 10 years is completely doable. You'll be fine. smile

Manchester_Black

Manchester_Black

Edmonton, AB
March 2004

JUL 05, 2005 08:29 PM

EnfantTerrible said:
Don't send them any money and don't answer your phone. You have 5 years before it hurts your credit. Just make payments a few months/years down the line when you can afford to.



Sorry man, but as soon as you start to lapse on payments, its reported on your credit bureau. An R9 (or I9, depending on the type of bill) takes about a year for you to get, sooner if the organization that you owe the money to sends it for 3rd party collection.

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