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MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

JUL 03, 2005 04:05 AM

On May 16, 8-year-old Shasta Groene and her 9-year-old brother Dylan were abducted from their Idaho home, where their mother, stepfather, and brother were found slain. Early Saturday morning, Shasta was found alive at a Denny's in the same town she disappeared from, accompanied by convicted sex offender Joseph Edward Duncan III. Dylan is still missing and is believed dead.

Duncan has a disturbing past - he was convicted in 1980 (at the age of 16) of raping a 14-year-old boy. He served 14 years in a Washington prison, and then three more after violating his parole. Upon release in 2000, he enrolled as a computer science major at North Dakota State University, where he made the Dean's List. He was arrested last July for approaching children on a playground with a video camera, pulling a 6-year-old's pants down, and touching him. He was released on bond, but fled the state.

The Sheriff's department in Idaho, where Duncan was arrested with Shasta, is reporting that Duncan even has a blog. It may not remain online for much longer, but the entries are certainly disturbing. His most recent entry, entitled "Still Confused" was posted on May 13, 2005...three days before Shasta and Dylan disappeared and their family was murdered. He talks about being a fugitive, disappointing his mother, and wanting to get rid of his "demons":

Does anything matter? My mother is crying right now, because her son is in trouble again. She tried to raise a good son, and she knows her son has a good heart, so why does he do these things? She is probably more hurt and confused than me. Does it matter? It hurts me to know these things, but DOES IT MATTER???
A hundred years from now, all my mothers pain will be forgotten, and other mothers will cry for there sons. A million years from now there probably won't be any mothers (at least not like we know).
I have feelings, in fact I think I must be more sensitive than most people because I seem to feel more than they do, at least more than what they openly express. I feel for the starving children and families in the world, others say, "Oh, that's too bad, but I can't do anything so..."
I wish I could be more honest about my feelings, but those demons made sure I'd never be able to do that. I might not know if it matters, but just in case, I am working on an encrypted journal that is hundreds of times more frank than this blog could ever be (that's why I keep it encrypted). I figure in 30 years or more we will have the technology to easily crack the encryption (currently very un-crackable, PGP) and then the world will know who I really was, and what I really did, and what I really thought. Also, maybe then they will understand that despite my actions, I'm not a bad person, I just have a disease contracted from society, and it hurts a lot.
I hope to complete this journal before I die (soon) or turn myself in (I still might do that, I think it is the right thing, but of course, I'm not sure).
Speak of being sure; I wish I could be sure about my thoughts. But right now the only thing I'm sure about is that I'm sure about nothing. It is not a good position to be in considering my circumstances (being a felony fugitive and all).


Earlier entires talk extensively of demons. He also talks openly about the molestation accusation:

So, I've been accused of molesting a little boy. Those close to me know I didn't do it of course, how could I, I'm not even a pedophile. Well, I'm not a psychopath either, I feel the full force and pain of everyone I have ever hurt, but that doesn't stop me from doing what I need to do. Ultimately my feelings don't matter, I learned that in prison. I have to carry out my orders or a lot worse than just me dying could happen.


The waitress who recognized the little girl - at 2am - gave her crayons and a milkshake so that Duncan wouldn't suspect that she had called the police. She described him as "jittery and jumpy."

Bastardo

Bastardo

Boston, MA
January 2005

JUL 03, 2005 04:47 AM


I figure in 30 years or more we will have the technology to easily crack the encryption (currently very un-crackable, PGP) and then the world will know who I really was, and what I really did, and what I really thought.


Holy crap. I mean, holy crap. You gotta be fucking kidding me.

Barny

Barny

United Kingdom
December 2003

JUL 03, 2005 05:13 AM

eeek omg.
that poor family... that poor little girl left.

and we should be pleased there are people around like that waitress.

Trahern

Trahern

United Kingdom
March 2003

JUL 03, 2005 05:20 AM

I guess he turned out to be a psycopath after all.

I think it's fairly obvious what he really did. I'm sure psychiatrists could rant about what he thought as described in what he wrote. The one thing I wonder is why he never killed himself. At least whatever he's written can't be as bad as the visual material people like him are probably sharing via PGP right now.

It's too bad, but I can't do anything about it, so.

[Edited on Jul 03, 2005 1:22PM]

photoline

photoline

Edmonton, AB
January 2005

JUL 03, 2005 05:39 AM

The death penalty should be applied to freaks like this who are beyond rehab and likely to re-offend. If I had lost a child to him, I would want to cut his heart out!!

SuperScott

SuperScott

Riverside, CA
November 2002

JUL 03, 2005 05:55 AM



Also, maybe then they will understand that despite my actions, I'm not a bad person, I just have a disease contracted from society, and it hurts a lot.




are you kidding me? what part of the city do you pick that disease up at?

svnt

svnt

Grand Rapids, MI
January 2005

JUL 03, 2005 06:26 AM

Isn't this enough evidence that our justice system is all screwed up? The fact that we would let this guy out. Ever. I agree with Photoline, people like that need to be put to death. Not for revenge, but to prevent them acting again.

adrock1212

adrock1212

Davis, CA
August 2004

JUL 03, 2005 06:34 AM

I vote we just feed him to lions at the San Diego zoo, and charge half price admission for that day.

Or let a bunch of mothers who have lost children to people like him take turns torturing him... until after a few days we cut his stomach and let him get eaten by vultures.

Nightraine

Nightraine

Bolingbrook, IL
July 2004

JUL 03, 2005 06:35 AM

The only disease this guy contracted from society is feeling he doesn't have to be responsible for his actions. It seems to be a common thread these days, that no one just does anything. It's always someone elses fault. This guy is just blaming demons and everyone else for his choices. I agree with Photoline and Svnt too, If you keep letting dangerous people out, they are going to keep hurting and killing. No other species lets their sick live.

pharcyde

pharcyde

Canada
September 2003

JUL 03, 2005 07:35 AM

Nightraine said:
...No other species lets their sick live.



humans dont follow the laws of nature.

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

JUL 03, 2005 07:37 AM

I don't believe they should be killed outright; that's beyond our standards as a species. But, at the same time, these cases keep showing to me there is some sickness and evil in these people that wiill lead to them doing this over and over again, and it doesn't seem to be able to be cured with any sort of psychological treatment. So I'm in favor of institutionalizing them after their release from prision if they are judged to be high risk. I have absolutely no issue with doing that.

funnyman

funnyman

Cherry Hill, NJ
December 2004

JUL 03, 2005 07:45 AM

photoline said:
The death penalty should be applied to freaks like this who are beyond rehab and likely to re-offend. If I had lost a child to him, I would want to cut his heart out!!



what's even worse is that he killed the parents and the rest of the family. that is just beyond comprehension. if he doesn't get the death penalty for this, and i am not joking, it will be a cold day in hell. even if he pleads insanity, it will not be enough to get him off this time. he has a history, and no jury in the world would let a sick fuck like this back into society. for god's sake, he killed an entire family save for an eight-year old girl, who he probably molested. if i were that girl, it would be a case of revenge ala deadly viper assissination squad. god, i can't even think about this anymore. it makes me sick to my stomach to think there are people like this out there. i hope this girl gets all of the help in the world, cuz she is going to need it.

if

if

Providence, RI
April 2005

JUL 03, 2005 07:48 AM

Nightraine said:
No other species lets their sick live.



No other species post on internet messageboards either.

black_tar_heroin

black_tar_heroin

I'm lost
January 2003

JUL 03, 2005 08:20 AM

he doesn't really sound insane to me.. he thinks way too much about time and his stupid "demons"..

i think when you nickname your feelings.......you are pretty much in touch with yourself

[Edited on Jul 03, 2005 11:20AM]

waldo

waldo

I'm lost
June 2004

JUL 03, 2005 08:33 AM

Where would he go for help? Is there anywhere a convicted sex offender can go when he's trying not to do it again?

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 03, 2005 08:46 AM

I don't kow, the comments to the blog entries are pretty disturbing.

Telltale

Telltale

USA
May 2004

JUL 03, 2005 08:49 AM

Fucking creep-tacular. I think this guy should be dissected and analyzed. I think it's so absurd that he got out on bond for that playground thing. It's like an addict relapsing, the authoroties should have realized he was a molestor and that he would do worse if he were let out again.

FrankMask

FrankMask

Saint Paul, MN
June 2003

JUL 03, 2005 09:07 AM

So, are their any child molesters that don't repeat?

Eitherway, we should just pick an island somewhere cold but where the water doesn't freeze and build a colony for these guys. It sounds like most offenders will repeat if released no matter what treatment they're given.

So. Island. Somewhere cold, but preferably where farming or something moderately useful can be done. Just get them the hell away from anyone under the age of twenty.

jeffvader

jeffvader

San Diego, CA
November 2004

JUL 03, 2005 09:12 AM

i just read an article about a black man that got 35 years in prison for stealing a TV. the justice system is beyond screwed up.

Cairo

Cairo

SUICIDEGIRL

Maryland, USA

JUL 03, 2005 09:31 AM

It is exceedingly sad that the little girl is all that's left of her family.

minimalism

minimalism

Argentina
OLD SKOOL

JUL 03, 2005 09:46 AM

I've always felt that sex offenders are worse than murders.That they cannot be rehabilatated. And that they should be tried and treated as such. Am I wrong? How do fuckers like this keep slipping through the cracks. It's certalinly not like there weren't enough warning signs.

zwiebel

zwiebel

I'm lost
August 2004

JUL 03, 2005 09:59 AM

It doesn't make any fucking sense. Keep them locked up FOREVER. The island is a nice idea. They can build their own "dream" society where they can live however the hell they want. Without any of society's protection or rules, since they obviously don't like that.

I am so sick of this shit. Dump them on an island and let them do whatever they want to do to each other.

[Edited on Jul 03, 2005 by zwiebel]

BabylonTheGreat

BabylonTheGreat

USA
September 2004

JUL 03, 2005 10:13 AM

Nightraine said:
The only disease this guy contracted from society is feeling he doesn't have to be responsible for his actions. It seems to be a common thread these days, that no one just does anything. It's always someone elses fault. This guy is just blaming demons and everyone else for his choices. ... No other species lets their sick live.



My father works for the "Freedom Project" that helps convicts who are getting out of jail (after being in there for a quite a while) re-adjust to society since it has changed. My father is a reformed convict for drug trafficing. From what I hear, alot of discussion goes on about how they are "victiems of society" and "products of there envirnment", which is what is believe he is reffering to.

Everyone has commited some kind of Sin in there lives. Some more than others, yes. I do not think that we should condem people for their weakness, but be compassionate and try and help them through it. There is a tribe I read a story about, murder and other similair crimes are rare. When someone does commit a crime, they look at that person as being mentaly ill and the entire tribe comes together to help.

I think there is something to be learned there. There is no law or system of imprisinment, and there crimes rates are so rare. They dont need laws to know its something they shouldnt do.

syrvyxyn

syrvyxyn

I'm lost
November 2004

JUL 03, 2005 10:20 AM

minimalism909 said:
I've always felt that sex offenders are worse than murders.That they cannot be rehabilatated. And that they should be tried and treated as such. Am I wrong? How do fuckers like this keep slipping through the cracks. It's certalinly not like there weren't enough warning signs.


They continue to slip through the cracks because there are allways people who think its cruel and unfair to remove them from society creating such cracks. Perhaps we should start charging those who are responsible for the release of sex offenders with aiding and abeding.

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

JUL 03, 2005 10:23 AM

syrvyxyn said:

minimalism909 said:
I've always felt that sex offenders are worse than murders.That they cannot be rehabilatated. And that they should be tried and treated as such. Am I wrong? How do fuckers like this keep slipping through the cracks. It's certalinly not like there weren't enough warning signs.


They continue to slip through the cracks because there are allways people who think its cruel and unfair to remove them from society creating such cracks. Perhaps we should start charging those who are responsible for the release of sex offenders with aiding and abeding.



I didn't want to get involved in this discussion, but as an (almost) public defender, I have to speak up on this one. If you go ahead and throw the public defenders (because it's rare that such offenders have the money to hire private lawyers) in prison for doing their job and obeying their oath of ethics, then this country's justice system is going to be in far more serious trouble than you perceive it to be at the moment.

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