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lostarchitect said: ... the edessa cloth somehow vanished in constantinople around the same time the shroud appeared in europe.
Disappeared from Constantinople in 1204. The popular claim is that is was looted along with a lot of other stuff in the Crusades. The shroud is first reported in the small town of Lirey in 1357, over 150 years later.
for fucks sake, fake, real, who fucking cares, if people want to believe its real, let em, if they want to be a nihlist, let it. its a waste of time and money to bother with this shit, because not one persons mind is going to be changed.
skeptik
New Orleans, LA
February 2004
JUN 25, 2005 12:40 AM