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Stiles

Oakland, CA

November 2002

MAY 31, 2005 12:39 PM

EdmundOG said:
How about we agree that an event where your tool is more important than your body doesn't count as a sport?

No. You can't olympic slalom with cross-country skis, and you're not going to win the Daytona 500 if I give you Jeff Gordon's car.

Similarly, being in the best shape physically will not by itself give you the skill, experience and knowlege it takes to be a professional sports player, race car driver, etc.

[Edited on May 31, 2005 by Stiles]

Oracle

Courtenay, BC

September 2003

MAY 31, 2005 01:26 PM

Deux said:

Secondly, you are stipulating that anyone with training could drive a race car successfully. Does that mean that anyone who can fly a Cessna can also fly a F-16?

With the right training, yes. Ask a pilot - all airplanes work on the same general principal. And I know of what I speak here. My uncle is a Colonel in the Air Force, a former test pilot, a Gulf War vet with almost 100 sortees under his belt, and commander of an installation in the Southwest. Guess what he learned to fly on...

I am in the airforce and that isn't true at all. No disrespect to your Uncle, but he is definately down playing his abilities. Yes all aircraft work on the same principle lift vs weight thrust vs drag...pull the stick back plane goes up, push it forward plane goes down...put the skill set of a fighter pilot or helicopter pilot etc...is different from your average civy pilot. Even with training not everyone shows the aptitude to pilot fighters. Can anyone drive nascar with the right training? not a chance. Thats like saying everyone who has enough training or practices enough can play pro baseball/football, whatever.

Oracle

Courtenay, BC

September 2003

MAY 31, 2005 01:28 PM

mamet said:

RIP, #3. *tear*

respectful head bow.

Clairevoyance

Tallahassee, FL

July 2004

MAY 31, 2005 01:35 PM

Not A Sport Created Around Rednecks

EdmundOG

I'm lost

July 2004

MAY 31, 2005 09:43 PM

RyanDipietro said:

EdmundOG said:
How about we agree that an event where your tool is more important than your body doesn't count as a sport?

Wayne Gretzky could kick ass at hockey with his dad's old skates and an appropriately shaped bit of wood. Dale Earnhardt couldn't win a Nascar race in a Ford Taurus.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Dale Earnhardt's been dead like... 5 years. I don't think he could win a NASCAR race in a McLaren.

Yeah, and Wayne Gretzky's old now. I just chose them because the general public knows them as the best. I would have said Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron or something for baseball, or Jesse Owens or Carl Lewis for track.

EdmundOG

I'm lost

July 2004

MAY 31, 2005 09:47 PM

Stiles said:

EdmundOG said:
How about we agree that an event where your tool is more important than your body doesn't count as a sport?

No. You can't olympic slalom with cross-country skis, and you're not going to win the Daytona 500 if I give you Jeff Gordon's car.

A better comparison, perhaps, but I still contend that to the skier, his body is more important than his skis. To a driver, his car is more important than his body. Golf is more of a sport than Nascar.

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL

November 2004

MAY 31, 2005 09:49 PM

SuperNintendo said:
Yeah, but do you consider a NASCAR driver to be an athlete?

I wouldn't go so far as to call a NASCAR driver an athlete, but they definitely skilled, like Golfers. But, NASCAR drivers's got personality; personality goes a long way.

Can we agree that posting on SG is a sport and SNES is Jordan. I'll entertain no counterpoint on this one.

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL

November 2004

MAY 31, 2005 09:55 PM

Oh and Deux, I'd like to say I think you handled this debate with couth and decorum not often seen in this forum Good show, man. Good. Show.

Deux

Oak Grove, KY

January 2003

MAY 31, 2005 10:53 PM

FridgeMagnet said:
Oh and Deux, I'd like to say I think you handled this debate with couth and decorum not often seen in this forum Good show, man. Good. Show.

I was just trying to have a discussion/debate without stirring the shitpot, as it were. I'm really glad that it didn't degenerate into name calling or insult-slinging. It was nice to hear other's opinions wihout all the hoopla. And I can agree to disagree without getting offended.

Oh, and I'm not a man.

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL

November 2004

MAY 31, 2005 10:57 PM

Deux said:

FridgeMagnet said:
Oh and Deux, I'd like to say I think you handled this debate with couth and decorum not often seen in this forum Good show, man. Good. Show.

I was just trying to have a discussion/debate without stirring the shitpot, as it were. I'm really glad that it didn't degenerate into name calling or insult-slinging. It was nice to hear other's opinions wihout all the hoopla. And I can agree to disagree without getting offended.

Oh, and I'm not a man.

Wanna fuck then?

Sorry, that's rude. Spread teh leg?

I have nothing that isn't dirty at the moment.

[Edited on May 31, 2005 by FridgeMagnet]

Deux

Oak Grove, KY

January 2003

MAY 31, 2005 11:00 PM

FridgeMagnet said:

Wanna fuck then?

Sorry, that's rude. Spread teh leg?

I have nothing that isn't dirty at the moment.

[Edited on May 31, 2005 by FridgeMagnet]

Ha ha! You pig.

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL

November 2004

MAY 31, 2005 11:01 PM

Deux said:

FridgeMagnet said:

Wanna fuck then?

Sorry, that's rude. Spread teh leg?

I have nothing that isn't dirty at the moment.

[Edited on May 31, 2005 by FridgeMagnet]

Ha ha! You pig.

And I wrote all that before I even checked your profile.

ultraman

I'm lost

November 2002

JUN 02, 2005 06:17 PM

Deux said:
And, let's face it - no one watches that drivel to see country-western fans buzzing around a track at 180mph for 500 miles. They watch it in hopes that there's a wicked fucking wreck the likes of which aren't often witnessed without a) being in it - or b) on a Los Angeles freeway. People can talk about how much they love their favorite driver all they want, but those same people would be oohing and ahhing as soon as their idol's in a 20-car pile-up.

i dont watch to see them crash. i prefer to see them going 195 mph, 3 wide across the track, bumper to bumper all out racing & jockeyong for position. granted those crash hilights are what make it to the newscasts on espn or george michaels sports machine, but true fans will remember the actual racing between drivers more than the crashes.

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