thrash242 said:
Yeah, I'm sure that writing to the Indonesian embassy is gonna help.

She got what she deserved. If you break laws in another country, you're subject to that country's legal system, whether you agree with them or not. And it's not like she just had some for personal use. She was smuggling it in to distribute, most likely.

Yes, by the standards of most western countries, it's a harsh sentence, but that's not the issue.

Except for the part where it's highly likely she was set up by baggage handlers who probably planted the weed in her bag. And that smuggling weed into Bali from Australia to sell is like smuggling weed from the US into Mexico to sell. But other than that, fuck the bitch, right?

I also suppose you agree with the laws in certain foreign countries that dictate a woman should be executed for having been raped, or for allowing their skin to show in public. Because if you break the laws in another country, you're subject to that country's legal system, whether you like it or not.

Show me where I said I agree with any of this. My point is, if you don't like the laws/judicial system in the country, either a) don't go there, or b) don't break laws there. If I were female, I certainly wouldn't want to go to any of those middle eastern countries (for that matter, I don't want to go being male either).

Nice straw man.

They had a trial where her lawers could have produced any evidence to suggest that she wasn't responsible for the presence of the drugs. The appeal, if any, is only going to work if they can introduce new evidence to suggest that somebody else could have been responsible for the presence of the drugs. You had to see the original story months ago when the drugs were shown, the amount was fucking enormous and had been packed to mimic the shape of the board, it is going to take serious new evidence to overturn the conviction.

Whatever else you may think, its their country and their laws, fuck with them at your peril.

Rabidnid

Australia

May 2004

MAY 29, 2005 01:45 AM

mrcrisp said:
from cnn:

-"Already the case has triggered a series of threats against Indonesian diplomatic missions in Australia and Indonesia."

-"Even before the sentence, there were calls for Australians to boycott the popular holiday destination of Bali and to ban Indonesian products."

-"Many callers to radio talk shows in Australia were incensed, and some said they regretted making donations to Indonesian tsunami victims."

and here i thought americans were stupid.

Everything is relative baby, we like to think that Americans are even more stupid (though its getting harder to tell these days).

thrash242

Pearland, TX

September 2004

MAY 29, 2005 04:10 AM

I'm not really talking about whether the laws are right or not, I'm saying that if someone going to another country and breaking its laws (assuming she did it), and then people whine about how horrible and unfair it is, it's ridiculous. I personally don't agree with the law, as I think drugs should be legalized. This, however, is beside the point.

I think the right for every individual to arm him/herself is a basic human right, but I'm not going to go to England packing a gun and if I did, I wouldn't whine about being thrown into jail and how unfair it all is. I wouldn't expect the US, Amnesty International, the UN, or anyone else to come bail me out, either, even though I would feel that I was being imprisoned unjustly for merely practicing a basic human right.

Whether you agree with it or not, you must abide by the laws of whatever country you're in or face the consequences. She didn't and she's facing the consequences, harsh though they may be.

hoisin

United Kingdom

April 2004

MAY 29, 2005 04:17 AM

little sympathy here. she should know better.

Rabidnid

Australia

May 2004

MAY 29, 2005 05:14 AM

BurningLeviathan said:
apparently the life expectancy of the prison she is going to is about 10yrs. Or so i read in the paper today(not to sure how true that is)
Hopefully Australia can get the prison relocation agreement going so she can serve out her sentence here.

Hummm, apparently the deal the Australian government was trying to broker was for her only, the Indonesians rejected that but said they would would consider a general policy of relocating prisoners if it was offered, so she is there for a while yet.

farsouth

Australia

November 2004

MAY 30, 2005 12:29 AM

it's not only aussies doing it.

[Edited on May 30, 2005 5:33PM]

TheRevolutionary

San Diego, CA

June 2004

MAY 30, 2005 01:03 AM

I can't believe people are still going to prison for this.

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Rabidnid

Australia

May 2004

MAY 29, 2005 01:40 AM

Rabidnid

Australia

May 2004

MAY 29, 2005 01:45 AM

thrash242

Pearland, TX

September 2004

MAY 29, 2005 04:10 AM

hoisin

United Kingdom

April 2004

MAY 29, 2005 04:17 AM

Rabidnid

Australia

May 2004

MAY 29, 2005 05:14 AM

farsouth

Australia

November 2004

MAY 30, 2005 12:29 AM

TheRevolutionary

San Diego, CA

June 2004

MAY 30, 2005 01:03 AM