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YUSHi

YUSHi

United Kingdom
May 2004

MAY 23, 2005 04:59 PM

Answer: They've all given birth...

The three sisters from the same family have each given birth and the two younger sisters are still at high school. The Williams sisters, who live with their mother, Julie Atkins (38) in a council house in Derby are now part of a BBC documentary titled "Desperate Midwives: The real truth about childbirth".

Jemma (12) gave birth to baby T-Jay in February 2004 only for her other two sisters, Natasha (16) and Jade (14) to discover that they too were expecting a few weeks later.

Mrs Atkins has since told the Sun newspaper that she still finds it difficult to believe what has happened:

"They are still little girls and now they have babies of their own," she said. "But I don't care what people say, I love my kids and I'm here to help them.

"If I could turn back the clock, I would prefer them not to have children. Their education is so important."


Mrs Atkins is however blaming the schools for providing poor quality sex education.

Two of the sisters are now no longer in contact with their children's fathers and Jemma is quoted in the Sun newspaper as saying:

"I only told my boyfriend David, who was 14 at the time, but I didn't want to have an abortion.
"He was my first love but now I'm gutted because he doesn't want to have anything to do with me or T-Jay."


It's been a rough week for those in charge of sex education in the UK, earlier this week they came under fire following a publicized report which found that many UK teenagers didn't even know how to use a Condom properly, a story that was covered here on the SG newswire

Desperate Midwives starts on Monday, 23 May, 2005 at 2100 BST on BBC3.

Hethral

Hethral

Richmond, BC
April 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:08 PM

Good thing those parents aren't taking an interest in their childer and teaching their kids sex education, then they wouldn't be able to bitch.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

MAY 23, 2005 05:10 PM

surreal

GAH!

-TM

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

MAY 23, 2005 05:13 PM


Mrs Atkins is however blaming the schools for providing poor quality sex education.



Of course she is. That would be the logical thing to do; not, say, to take initiative and talk to your kids about these things yourself. No, not at all.

[Edited on May 23, 2005 by mamet]

TheDishwasher

TheDishwasher

Frederick, MD
July 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:13 PM

im sorry, but i didnt need school to know not to get myself preggo when i was 12... hell i hadnt even kissed a guy yet when i was 12

evander23

evander23

Bozeman, MT
April 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:15 PM

mamet said:


Mrs Atkins is however blaming the schools for providing poor quality sex education.



Of course she is. That would be the logical thing to do; not, say, to take initiative and talk to your kids about these things yourself. No, not at all.

[Edited on May 23, 2005 by mamet]



my thoughts exactly

MadScience_7

MadScience_7

Golden, CO
June 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:18 PM

TheDishwasher said:
im sorry, but i didnt need school to know not to get myself preggo when i was 12... hell i hadnt even kissed a guy yet when i was 12



Yeah. Do all UK people get that much actions?

Jerry_Coke

Jerry_Coke

United Kingdom
May 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:26 PM

Natasha, Jemma and Jade Williams with children Amani, T-Jay and Lita



There need to be laws on what you can and cannot name children.

How long will it be before bloody underscores appear on birth certificates?

McBane13

McBane13

I'm lost
April 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:31 PM

Hmmm....

/me needs to talk to a British 12 year old to get some tips on mackin' da honeyz.


tongue tongue tongue tongue biggrin biggrin

kombucha

kombucha

United Kingdom
September 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:33 PM

gahhh! now you wonder why i wanna get out of england, bloody ell all 3 of them have children wish i was getting some loving mad mad mad mad

the girls probably only got pregnant for the
FREE HOUSE:
NO TAX
CHILD SUPPORT

here in england if you have a child then you get a free house, n can claim child support n it seems all the dumbasses are drawn to this special offer

mad mad mad

I just feel sorry for their children being brought up like that.

no doubt their children will follow on the tradition and so on, and it will go on and on,

GAH!

[Edited on May 24, 2005 1:33AM] mad

[Edited on May 24, 2005 1:34AM]

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

MAY 23, 2005 05:40 PM

mamet said:


Mrs Atkins is however blaming the schools for providing poor quality sex education.



Of course she is. That would be the logical thing to do; not, say, to take initiative and talk to your kids about these things yourself. No, not at all.

[Edited on May 23, 2005 by mamet]



If individual parents are too stupid to educate their children on these subjects, maybe it would be a good idea for schools to do it, otherwise we roll out another generation of idiots. Just a thought...

I mean, I agree that parents have to take responsibility for the issue and that this woman has failed at rasing sexually responsible children--she needs to accept that and try to improve. Education can't change her though, what it can change is the kids in school right now. Point is, the call for system wide reform isn't wrong just because she is.

Baletempest

Baletempest

United Kingdom
February 2005

MAY 23, 2005 05:42 PM

Words fail me...

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:44 PM

this is kinda like that movie Village of the Damned...

surreal

kombucha

kombucha

United Kingdom
September 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:46 PM

but the thing is: the schools give out the information, even though it may be brief but surely theres not much to know to be honest, i thought the lesson was compulsory anyway

anger_frog

anger_frog

I'm lost
January 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:48 PM

It sounds like three little boys need to have a chunk of child support deducted from their milk money. ARRR!!!

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

MAY 23, 2005 05:49 PM

The UK has a scarily high rate of teenage pregnancy. I doubt that the UK's welfare structure encourages people to become teen mothers. Maybe it's just me but "an appointment with the department of work and pensions and then down the council to put me name on the list" isn't what I'm thinking about when I'm shagging.

Coincidences are usually meaningless but this case highlights what might be a worrying aspect of UK society. Very many young women are having unplanned pregnancies (and children), and these women are often vilified. The attitudes that some people display to teen-mothers can be shocking.


Jerry_Coke said:
How long will it be before bloody underscores appear on birth certificates?



Underscores FUCKING RULE wink

mamet

mamet

Charleston, SC
March 2005

MAY 23, 2005 05:58 PM

Vestril said:
If individual parents are too stupid to educate their children on these subjects, maybe it would be a good idea for schools to do it, otherwise we roll out another generation of idiots. Just a thought...

I mean, I agree that parents have to take responsibility for the issue and that this woman has failed at rasing sexually responsible children--she needs to accept that and try to improve. Education can't change her though, what it can change is the kids in school right now. Point is, the call for system wide reform isn't wrong just because she is.



I didn't mean to imply that I don't think schools should teach a responsible and comprehensive sexual education class. And certainly these should be improved from their current state. I was merely responding to the parent's assertion that it was somehow the school's fault that her children were all pregnant. Responsibility for this lies ultimately on the parent. And three kids with babies: that's a trend.

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

MAY 23, 2005 06:00 PM

T-Jay?

Vampirate

Vampirate

Durham, NC
October 2004

MAY 23, 2005 06:24 PM

MrStitches said:
T-Jay?



Oh, come one. What did you want to name your kids when you were twelve?

kombucha

kombucha

United Kingdom
September 2004

MAY 23, 2005 06:25 PM

but even the schools can just teach a sertain amount at the end of the day it boils down to the individual and their actions,

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

MAY 23, 2005 06:32 PM

StackedUpXXII said:

MrStitches said:
T-Jay?



Oh, come one. What did you want to name your kids when you were twelve?



touche.
I probably would have thought naming a child after a star trek character was a good idea. . .

pavlovsdog

pavlovsdog

Asheville, NC
May 2004

MAY 23, 2005 06:38 PM

Wow, there must really be nothing else to do in Derby.

Tekky

Tekky

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

MAY 23, 2005 06:41 PM

that is one of the most fucked up things i have ever read.

ill_will

ill_will

Detroit, MI
September 2004

MAY 23, 2005 06:49 PM

demetrius_z said:
The UK has a scarily high rate of teenage pregnancy. I doubt that the UK's welfare structure encourages people to become teen mothers. Maybe it's just me but "an appointment with the department of work and pensions and then down the council to put me name on the list" isn't what I'm thinking about when I'm shagging.

Coincidences are usually meaningless but this case highlights what might be a worrying aspect of UK society. Very many young women are having unplanned pregnancies (and children), and these women are often vilified. The attitudes that some people display to teen-mothers can be shocking.



I'm sure something like this has happened more than a few times in the US. I don't have the stats, but I think America has the market cornered on teenage pregnancy rates.

kombucha

kombucha

United Kingdom
September 2004

MAY 23, 2005 06:49 PM

its true theres nothing to do in derby its half an hour from me, i get the mental image that there is goin to be swarm of babies come stampeeding in my town :S frown

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