Wow, I didn't know Coronodo firebombing MSU facilities and various other animal shelters was the opinion of "The Center for Consumer Freedom". You got me there s5. Since it's an "opinion" that MSU had a huge fire at their research lab. It must of never happened and that bit of tax information never existed.
i saw a video of a cole bros elephant trainer whipping an elephant with a meathook until it screeched.
so this news makes me happy.
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crucifiedalien
I'm lost
February 2004
MAY 18, 2005 07:54 PM
good for PETA. i also hope that their recent uncovering of all of this horrible monkey abuse gets some results. i just don't know what's wrong with some people.
You're right. PETA has nothing to do with extremist orginizations.
I'm sorry, but he makes a point. Corporate front or no corporate front (I hate Big Tobacco and Oil as much as any good anti-Republican would), what if someone gets killed? What then?
Olivia said:
Love them or hate them, you have to admit that PETA's dedication to animal rights gets results.
Yep. I really detest PETA's tactics sometimes even if I agree with what they're doing, and for a while argued that they were self-defeating. Now, I pretty much think that PETA does exactly what it needs to do to get people's attentions: piss them off. I really hate that that's what it takes, but part of me respects them for being willing to do everything they can to further a cause, whether it makes people hate them or not.
Either way, the treatment of animals in circuses was never anything short of repulsive, so this is something I'm very happy to see. However you stand on animal rights, it's not like these animals were feeding people or performing a service or being tested on...I once saw a video not produced by PETA or anyone animal rights based on the treatment of elephants in circuses. Elephants are unbelievably dangerous animals, so part of the deal with them was that they had to not know that they could ever hurt humans. That means you have to literally beat them into submission. As far as I know, there's no way around this; they are, by nature, not the docile, nice creatures we generally think of them as being. They have to be scared of people to be forced into doing what they're told. Anyway, part of the danger with that is that occasionally elephants snap from the amount of abuse they take.
Hey, I dunno, maybe there's a way around all that, but even if there is, I have to wonder what the fucking point is. Whatever the role of animals in this world is, I find it hard to imagine that balancing on a ball for a crowd's amusement is a critical part of it.
dopespike
Columbus, OH
October 2003
MAY 18, 2005 07:29 PM