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MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

MAY 09, 2005 12:42 AM

A high school senior in New Hampshire decided that she would rather take AP Biology rather than a Physical Education class called BEST - "Building Essential Skills for Tomorrow" The problem, according to Bow High School, is that the BEST class is a requirement, where as AP Bio is not. Thus, she's not going to graduate.

Even more puzzling, the school would not even consider waiving the requirement and giving Isabel Gottleib credit for playing three varsity sports. So, in order to attend Trinity College in Connecticut in the fall, Isabel will have to take her GED exam.

Well, it's good to see one tiny New Hampshire high school taking a firm stand against America's rising obesity, even if it means that actual academic education is thrown to the wayside.

Aedara

Aedara

Portsmouth, RI
January 2005

MAY 09, 2005 05:05 AM

that... is... insane! mad

YUSHi

YUSHi

United Kingdom
May 2004

MAY 09, 2005 05:09 AM

lol... that's just mad...

akl

akl

Sacramento, CA
February 2004

MAY 09, 2005 05:25 AM

why is this news? this kind of stuff has been standard all over the country for longer than I've ever been around

madmann_83

madmann_83

Moseley, VA
January 2004

MAY 09, 2005 05:34 AM

well i feel nothing for her. she had to have known it was a required class.

hermetica

hermetica

Cook Islands
January 2004

MAY 09, 2005 05:48 AM

_adam said:
why is this news? this kind of stuff has been standard all over the country for longer than I've ever been around


Thats what I'm asking myself. surreal surreal

silverstreak

silverstreak

Fort Wayne, IN
October 2004

MAY 09, 2005 05:55 AM

She's a senior, taking AP classes, and she still doesn't know her graduation requirements?

My high school would grant waivers for everything; you could get out of taking PE if you were in marching band. But they wouldn't grant any to seniors... I guess they figured if you wanted to take all AP classes to get into a good school you'd be smart enough to plan ahead.


(When I was in school AP Bio was for sophomores- she's just a slacker! Now get off my lawn!)

MissTyrios

misstyrios

NEWSWIRE

Allston, MA

MAY 09, 2005 07:29 AM

hermetica said:

_adam said:
why is this news? this kind of stuff has been standard all over the country for longer than I've ever been around


Thats what I'm asking myself. surreal surreal



It's a blog, not CNN.

Conxuela

Conxuela

Flagstaff, AZ
December 2004

MAY 09, 2005 07:35 AM

i never took a day of p.e in my whole high school career.
sounds like she need to transfer to a state with lower standards.

i knew arizona was good for something.
but at least i never had to take any of thoese creepy public high school showers.
biggrin

Gravelord81

Gravelord81

Richmond, KY
October 2003

MAY 09, 2005 07:48 AM

that's government schools for yah

trestria

trestria

Wilson, NC
October 2004

MAY 09, 2005 07:55 AM

madmann_83 said:
well i feel nothing for her. she had to have known it was a required class.



True.

MC_Dove

MC_Dove

Cincinnati, OH
November 2004

MAY 09, 2005 08:14 AM

i've got a way to get out of gym class. it's called "get mono". it worked for me. tongue

_Sarah_

_Sarah_

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2003

MAY 09, 2005 08:22 AM

If she knew it was a requirement, she should have scheduled it in. I took gym, and I still had room for my AP classes. I have no pity.

She can't skate through college without taking crappy, required gen-eds either.

I know the point is that she played sports and shouldn't have had to take gym, but that's something that should have been addressed (and approved) LONG before graduation day.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

MAY 09, 2005 08:38 AM

While I agree with what's said about faulting her for not knowing her graduation requirements, I do have to wonder, where the hell was her advisor/guidance counselor when she was doing her schedule? Hell, our system was set up so that you had to first fill in classes that would cover your required classes at the time and then you put in the extra stuff. For example, if you didn't schedule PE your freshman year, it would raise a red flag and your advisor would contact you about it. If there was a good reason for not having such a class, your advisor had to sign off on it.

So while I place most of the blame on her, this sounds like the kind of school system that lets people fall thru the cracks.

Chitin

Chitin

New York, NY
December 2004

MAY 09, 2005 08:43 AM

Ahh, the joys of the one-size-fits-all school system. So very irritating. One shouldn't HAVE to "play the game" to graduate.

trestria

trestria

Wilson, NC
October 2004

MAY 09, 2005 09:12 AM

Chitin said:
Ahh, the joys of the one-size-fits-all school system. So very irritating. One shouldn't HAVE to "play the game" to graduate.



Well, you know what? That's the way things work sometimes. It's not about what should/shouldn't be, it's about what IS.

silicon

silicon

Wallington, NJ
December 2003

MAY 09, 2005 09:53 AM

Shouldn't the "No Child Left Behind" crap force her ahead anyway?

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

MAY 09, 2005 09:57 AM

When I went to high school I was automatically put in the two gym classes I had to take. Courses that were required to graduate were automatically put on your schedule with the exception of Bio, Chem and Physics because you got to choose which ones you wanted to take.

Seriously... she should have known better than this.

lonnrot

lonnrot

Santa Cruz, CA
December 2004

MAY 09, 2005 10:16 AM

Been there, done that. In my case it really was a scheduling problem to do both. The science classes at the high school were rather slow, so I started taking classes at the local college. Fitting in PE was an issue. The high school wouldn't budge on the requirement.

I called all the schools I was interested in (Caltech, MIT, CMU, etc.), and all of them said they didn't care if I graduated. Upper tier schools take students without diplomas all the time. Amusingly, if I had wanted to go to the lame state university they would have rejected me. Even more reason to not graduate.

I wonder what's up with Trinity.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAY 09, 2005 10:30 AM

Funny to see everyone here telling the girl "she should have known" when the school itself didn't catch the mistake. Call me crazy, but I'm on her side.

alpha_hazard

alpha_hazard

Fort Collins, CO
April 2004

MAY 09, 2005 10:31 AM

three varsity sports?

you know, at my high school, we had the option to test out of PE our senior year by doing an 8 minute mile and 12 pushups...or something like that...instead, I opted to play basketball everyday my freshman year in PE class...

Three varsity sports are apparently not enough to give you skills for the future?

Keith

Keith

Hooker, OK
August 2002

MAY 09, 2005 10:33 AM

I got my PE credit for being in choir. whatever

emperorreagan

emperorreagan

Baltimore, MD
January 2004

MAY 09, 2005 10:34 AM

I loved PE, too.

Not that I really liked any of the sports we played, except when we did some Judo. It was just a free A for no effort. Who would turn that down?

I took AP bio when I was a freshman, so did my little brother. By the time senior year rolled around, I had already taken all of the AP science courses the school offered. I planned ahead so I wouldn't have to do any work my senior year.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAY 09, 2005 10:35 AM

Keith said:
I got my PE credit for being in choir. whatever


*Gives Keith a wedgie*

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAY 09, 2005 10:38 AM

socalsk1nhead said:

PointBlank said:
Funny to see everyone here telling the girl "she should have known" when the school itself didn't catch the mistake. Call me crazy, but I'm on her side.



From my experiences in high school, I was told every year what I needed to take. I was told how much of each subject I had to take, and told to plan accordingly. And it wasn't once in the summer orientation of freshman year. Every year when you met up with your counselor and picked your classes. She made the decision to take AP English even though she knew PE was a requirement for graduation. It's the schools fault for not wiping her ass every step of the way?


You just said that when you were in high school they told you what you needed to take. The article clearly states that the school didn't tell her until AFTER she made her schedule.

I've heard a lot of bloviating in this thread, but no one has yet explained what the school has to lose in letting her graduate.

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