NEWS: Suck on this

I wanted to post a link to the article but it was late and I couldn't find it.
Shoulda mentioned A, and B...Maybe not, maybe so.

Personally I wouldn't care so much who people are and what they do.
As long as they can perform to standard.

We probably didn't actually read the same article, but it's been covered a lot recently, and those two issues have come up in a few of them.

Well, financially capable is another of those dubious terms. Usually when a poor couple has a child they deal with it... usually by both of them working... which certain people seem to want to make it difficult for a mother to work and have a child. All I really meant by that is that you shouldn't have a child if you have absolutely no way to take care of the child... but I think most people, even the very poor, can manage. It's not easy, but people pull it off. As for having goals and such yeah, of course you hope for the best and plan for anything, but my point is really that when you are bringing ANOTHER LIFE into this world it should really be for a better reason than simply because YOU want to. An individual is an individual, they shouldn't be a parents plaything or whatever. I know it is a sort of vague concept, I'm just saying I don't like people looking at having a child the same way they look at buying a new tv or a dog. If you're going to bring a human life into this world you damn well better be more focused on that human life than making your own life perfect for yourself.

Though hopefully no one is looking at women breastfeeding in public the way we look at the girls pictures here.

Hmm.

I really wonder where all these women breastfeeding in public are that have their breasts all hanging out. Most of them are incredibly discrete about it. They have one breast partially exposed and a baby blocking the view, often they have a little blankie or whatever covering the whole scene as well. Most women actually prefer not to expose themselves in public any more than need be. You would really have to go out of your way to see much breast.

If a woman has a right to let her boobs all hang out at work, I should have a right to let my eyes roam where they will and stare at whatever I want.

Just a guess, but I bet that's NOT the way breastfeeding advocates see it. Probably, they feel they have right to do what they want with their boob, but that I DON'T have a right to stare at it, or mouth off and talk openly whether or not I think she has a nice pair of "hooters."

Yes, most breasts give some boys boners. It's totally involuntary. A lot of guys can't help it. Some of us don't even like it when it happens; hence, why some guys don't want to see boobs in public.

Also, I'm sure there will be a few women who will feel uncomfortable when guys start rating which women have nice boobs at work and which don't; who's got the big pepperoni's and who's got the small ones. Particularly, the women who are made to feel inadequate, for whatever reason. They'll call it a "hostile environment." Whatever, we're just talking, right?

Check it out: http://www.big-boys.com/articles/babynurse.html

Maybe women should only be allowed to breastfeed in public if they have boobs that most people wouldn't want to look at anyways. Like, if you're a really good-looking chick with nice boobs and I get a boner because I can't help it, I get to sue you for harrassment. We'll get to argue in court about how nice you look, and whether a "reasonable person" would have gotten a boner.

Also, if there is a particularly unfortunate looking woman who hangs her breast out with her kids suckling on it whilst staring at me lasciviously, can I get her fired? There's always at least one of those women in any large company..

Okay, I'll stop joking around now. Just put a door on the cubicle. What's the problem, so long as you still get your work done? I've baby-sat for my guy friend's kids at work during lunch a few times myself. Of course, he's my friend, and he does things for me in return.

[Edited on May 08, 2005 by EatGreat]

You are ignorant to the struggles of the working class. You should probably just stay off the boards.

the article that I read was an associated press article that ran in the local paper, so we prolly read the same one.

I have to agree with Morgan. Theres nothing "civilized" about our society when the people in it spout stupid shit like some of the stuff on this thread.

You're right, I did misunderstand. In my defense, I was drunk when I posted.

But I also think there are many more people being created than we'll need, and therefore the biological imperative isn't a good reason to provide incentives for procreation.

What is a better reason?

No, that was in the rest of my post, as well as why calling it an "incentive" is nonsense. The biological imperative was merely in response to others using loaded and inappropriate terminology to trivialize the opposing argument.

I don't know, because you want to give life to another human being and love and support them as best as possible for them?

When I say you should have a better reason than you want to, I mean in context of everything else I was saying. Like, "I want a baby" because what... I want a kid... but why... to make MY life better? Or to give life to a child and make that child's life as good as I can?

This thread makes baby Jesus cry. How can you be against this short of misogyny, misanthropy or puritanical hatred of breasts?

Kudos.
You have your head on straight and your feet on the ground.
Thank you for your sensible commentary on life.

Ditto.
It's a damn shame that those humans with penis' who have posted such idiotic comments actually dare to address themselves as men. Their comments do not reflect the status of a mature male; instead they reflect the thought processes and feelings of immature boys who have no experience with the real world.

It's a damn shame that humans without penises presume to know what is and what isn’t a man.

If that's your opinion, so what?

[Edited on May 08, 2005 by EatGreat]

So we point and laugh at these types of people?

So what so what?

Good question!

Plenty of penis bearers have said the same things she has in this thread.

Your opinion is duly noted. I don't concern myself much with what other people think...

[Edited on May 08, 2005 by EatGreat]

That doesn’t come as a surprise.

It irritates me to hear people equate taking a break to pump milk with taking a break to smoke. No, no, no!

Pumping milk is something of a necessity for some women (ie. those insistent on breastfeeding or those who experience pain and leaking if they don't do it). Smoking is a complete waste of time and serves no purpose.

So why view smokers and new mothers in the same light?

I'm in the Navy, and smokers get so many damn breaks throughout the day here. I've started claiming my right to take no-smoke breaks, which hasn't gone over too well.

Frightening topic, or should I say frightening responses from some of the men... makes me sad to say that I am one really. Why can't nursing mothers nurse inside an office? Do we go to the zoo and stop nursing animals?

As for the ridiculous thread as to whether it's a choice - sure it is, but the rest of society has to accept it, just like we accept marriage, divorce and other choices that change lives (and most states have to allow you to change health insurance, etc, due to those choices). Unfortunately the ones who have the power to enforce their own choices on the rest of society are so incredibly small minded (and penis equipped) that same sex couples cannot join in a union and by the slimmest of margins women have the right to choose.

I might be a man, but in terms of women, I should have nothing to say but my slient support of ALL their rights, period.

Shame on you men that think otherwise. It's only a matter of time before you are weeded out by not reproducing with those same women whose rights you would take away.