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Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

MAY 05, 2005 10:29 AM

Deaf, partially blind, and mostly oblivious to his surroundings for the last decade, firefighter Donald Herbert began talking to his wife and children this weekend. Herbert was informed that he he'd been "away" not for three months, as he thought, but for ten years.

So what's the explanation for these reports of long-delayed, sudden improvement?

"We really don't know for sure what's going on," says Anthony Stringer, director of neuropsychology in the department of rehabilitation medicine at the Emory University School of Medicine.

While the answer might involve some long-delayed change in the brain, experts said Tuesday, a sudden improvement might also result from a far different cause, like a change in medications or treatment of some other medical condition that's been suppressing mental function.


Herbert's sons were 3, 11, 13 and 14 when a burning building collapsed on him, denying him oxygen for several minutes.

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi. His brain function remained limited, his family said months later.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAY 05, 2005 10:45 AM

Cigarette said:

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi.


All he wanted was a Pepsi. And SHE wouldn't give it to him!!!

Idjit

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

MAY 05, 2005 10:58 AM

PointBlank said:

Cigarette said:

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi.


All he wanted was a Pepsi. And SHE wouldn't give it to him!!!



Damn you to hell, quick-draw McGraw! wink

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

MAY 05, 2005 11:15 AM

a cure for debilitating brain damage? a hope for the future of america's voters? surreal

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

MAY 05, 2005 11:26 AM

PointBlank said:

Cigarette said:

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi.


All he wanted was a Pepsi. And SHE wouldn't give it to him!!!



Curses! I was gonna say that!!!

Seriously though, holy crap. surreal

Telltale

Telltale

USA
May 2004

MAY 05, 2005 11:34 AM

_DictionaryGirl_ said:

Curses! I was gonna say that!!!

Seriously though, holy crap. surreal



Sheesh, everyone's getting denied in this post.

PointBlank

PointBlank

New York, NY
November 2004

MAY 05, 2005 11:36 AM

JayHawk said:

_DictionaryGirl_ said:

Curses! I was gonna say that!!!

Seriously though, holy crap. surreal



Sheesh, everyone's getting denied in this post.


Call me Mutombo!!

[Edited on May 05, 2005 by PointBlank]

benizdead

benizdead

United Kingdom
February 2003

MAY 05, 2005 11:53 AM

it's not a permanent reversal, the guy's been slipping back into the coma state on occasions since saturday frown

AvantGarde

AvantGarde

I'm lost
April 2005

MAY 05, 2005 11:56 AM

PointBlank said:

Cigarette said:

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi.


All he wanted was a Pepsi. And SHE wouldn't give it to him!!!


Genius.

deezaster

deezaster

Canada
December 2004

MAY 05, 2005 11:56 AM

JayHawk said:

_DictionaryGirl_ said:

Curses! I was gonna say that!!!

Seriously though, holy crap. surreal



Sheesh, everyone's getting denied in this post.



Great minds think alike! wink smile

Guess what I was gonna say!!?

mad biggrin

d.

[Edited on May 05, 2005 2:57PM]

Coliwali

Coliwali

I'm lost
February 2003

MAY 05, 2005 12:01 PM

Has anyone made the inevitable Terri Schiavo comparison yet? Cause I’d like to preemptively say brain damage isn’t the same as brain death.

Blackey

Blackey

Amherst, MA
October 2004

MAY 05, 2005 12:19 PM

benizdead said:
it's not a permanent reversal, the guy's been slipping back into the coma state on occasions since saturday frown



Let's keeping hoping then?

LoadedDiceInc

LoadedDiceInc

Dover, NH
April 2005

MAY 05, 2005 12:43 PM

Does anyone know if Pepsi has jumped on this yet to make it a commercial?

I can see it now: "Pepsi, brings you back to life."

AvantGarde

AvantGarde

I'm lost
April 2005

MAY 05, 2005 12:47 PM

LoadedDiceInc said:
Does anyone know if Pepsi has jumped on this yet to make it a commercial?

I can see it now: "Pepsi, brings you back to life."


More like: "Pepsi, for people who are a decade behind the times."

aegies

aegies

Oakland, CA
June 2004

MAY 05, 2005 01:10 PM

Coliwali said:
Has anyone made the inevitable Terri Schiavo comparison yet? Cause I’d like to preemptively say brain damage isn’t the same as brain death.



you would need an instance of a brain reduced to what was essentially spinal fluid reconstituing itself into brain matter for that comparison to be valid. although i'm sure someone like stockula will be in here any minute making the comparison anyway.

Viscount_Slick

Viscount_Slick

Cambodia
October 2004

MAY 05, 2005 01:28 PM

benizdead said:
it's not a permanent reversal, the guy's been slipping back into the coma state on occasions since saturday frown



Word. I read that as well. Weren't the other cases similar in that there was one day of dramatic improvement and then considerably less activity thereafter? That's gotta be bittersweet for the families.

Orko27

Orko27

Lacey, WA
October 2004

MAY 05, 2005 01:30 PM

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi.


Talk about product placement...

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

MAY 05, 2005 03:39 PM

PointBlank said:

JayHawk said:

_DictionaryGirl_ said:

Curses! I was gonna say that!!!

Seriously though, holy crap. surreal



Sheesh, everyone's getting denied in this post.


Call me Mutombo!!

[Edited on May 05, 2005 by PointBlank]



"Who wants to sex Mutombo"

Ahriman

Ahriman

North York, ON
February 2003

MAY 05, 2005 04:23 PM

PointBlank said:

JayHawk said:

_DictionaryGirl_ said:

Curses! I was gonna say that!!!

Seriously though, holy crap. surreal



Sheesh, everyone's getting denied in this post.


Call me Mutombo!!

[Edited on May 05, 2005 by PointBlank]



Does this mean that after denying other peoples post; you wag your finger at the monitor and shout, "Not in my house!"?

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

MAY 05, 2005 04:35 PM

_DictionaryGirl_ said:

PointBlank said:

Cigarette said:

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi.


All he wanted was a Pepsi. And SHE wouldn't give it to him!!!



Curses! I was gonna say that!!!



I was going to put that in there, but I couldn't figure any way to do it any way I liked, so I cut it.

biggrin

razorbladesalad

razorbladesalad

Chicago, IL
December 2002

MAY 05, 2005 08:12 PM

PointBlank said:

Cigarette said:

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi.


All he wanted was a Pepsi. And SHE wouldn't give it to him!!!



JUST ONE PEPSI!

BurningKrome

BurningKrome

San Jose, CA
April 2005

MAY 05, 2005 09:22 PM

PointBlank said:

Cigarette said:

There have been a few other widely publicized examples of brain-damaged patients showing sudden improvement after a number of years. In 2003, an Arkansas man, severely disabled and largely silent for 19 years after a car accident, stunned his mother by saying "Mom" and then asking for a Pepsi.


All he wanted was a Pepsi. And SHE wouldn't give it to him!!!



I'M NOT CRAZY!

YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S CRAZY!

BurningKrome

BurningKrome

San Jose, CA
April 2005

MAY 05, 2005 09:32 PM

Count_Slick said:

benizdead said:
it's not a permanent reversal, the guy's been slipping back into the coma state on occasions since saturday frown



Word. I read that as well. Weren't the other cases similar in that there was one day of dramatic improvement and then considerably less activity thereafter? That's gotta be bittersweet for the families.



Has anyone seen the research indicating that the brain continues to grow and change as it gets used, just as do other muscles? They have done a lot of research with the motor skills section of athletes, and the map/directional lobes of London Cabbies (no really).

Some of the preliminary data offers a great deal of hope to the brain damaged, indicating that...not only can damaged parts of the brain re-map to other, less damaged, areas...but the damaged areas themselves can repair much more effectively than originally thought.

Einstein’s brain had a gigantic mathematics center at the time of his death, so the question is...was it his huge brain that made him a genius...or was his brain huge because he used it so much?

A coupla websites...

Decent link:
http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/view.cgi?/news/2000/03/14/taxi000314

This ones piss poor, but you get the idea...
http://www.rocknroll.force9.co.uk/science/taxidrivers.html

Neyrissa

Neyrissa

SUICIDEGIRL

United Kingdom

MAY 06, 2005 04:10 AM

Wow. How very awesome.

LoadedDiceInc

LoadedDiceInc

Dover, NH
April 2005

MAY 06, 2005 07:07 AM

AvantGarde said:

LoadedDiceInc said:
Does anyone know if Pepsi has jumped on this yet to make it a commercial?

I can see it now: "Pepsi, brings you back to life."


More like: "Pepsi, for people who are a decade behind the times."



We are both going to hell. If you get there before me save me a good seat. Non-smoking please!