loch ness

I was Listening to the Mark And Brian Radio Program this morning and they were talking about the monster. They had a man on plugging his book which i forgot but he also plugged a site about college kids touring the lake where they found some interesting stuff and the local authorities took it wont give it back and denys the whole story....... the goods

Go Nessie go!

Them some fancy nessie fangs!!

(Insert obligatory Napoleon Dynamite reference here)

I love shit like this.

I was looking at that site thinking wow this actually seems kinda real... Then I watched the video and it's soo lame, the guys talking TOTALLY sound like dudes in weird amatuer porn... no? no one else watches weird amatuer porn? Awkward!

It's amazing to me how much some people are determined to believe something, and you can really see that in Loch Ness, where the entire lake's been dredged, sonared, radared, watched, photographed, whatever, for decades, and found nothing conclusive. I bet you $100 they could drain the entire lake, nuke the dry bed from orbit, fill it back up, and people would still be saying there was a loch ness monster.


Oh, and that deer owed Nessie three-fitty.



[Edited on May 04, 2005 by Keith]

I don't know if the loch ness monster is real but I have seen Chessie the Chesapeake Bay Monster--

I think she died from mercury poisoning or nitrate run off from fertilizer--me, I died of a broken heart

Hell, even if it's not real, the idea that it could be is amazing.
Maybe it's just me.

Scientists can't agree on whether or not Nessie is real, lots of evidence has been found to support both sides and I recall one funded expedition a few years ago where a boat loaded with sonar equipment followed something for over a mile across the lake. They won't explain what it is and I'm not convinced they really know but theres something BIG in that lake. I think for sure that there is a large creature of some kind living there.

I also love shit like this.

freaky

judging by the base of that thing i'd say that's a deer antler.
the shape is way more concurrent with a small antler than a tooth and the round wooden looking thing at a base is very characteristic of deer antlers as well.
just check out this big deer antler, it's got the same disc shape at the base where it falls off and regrows every year.

wheres the black/blue tip? and the size of it? and the other half of the deer?

differen't type of deer obviously, there's smaller species of deer that get single spike shaped horns like the one that guy is holding instead of antlers that branch out.
no clue what they're called in english but they're pretty common if not the most common type of deer in europe.

No, it's not just you. I love this kind of stuff.

someone call mulder & scully, i sense a cover-up.

Sure looks like a little antler to me, but I'm no expert. Maybe it got in a fight with another deer and died? Then scavengers chewed up the rest. There may not be bears locally, but aren't there wolves in Scotland?

Does look like this?

I'm sure that's an antler. There are no bears or wolves in Scotland. There are foxes and badgers (bigger than American badgers, but not exactly huge...) and wildcats (about bobcat size, I think).

But what says that's Loch Ness, exactly? The only thing putting that at Loch Ness is the Scottish-sounding bloke; who does not have a strong accent, either.

Calling all who have researched the topic:

Its theorized that Nessie may be Plesiosaur, if anyone can dig up a picture of one of that thing's teeth we might be able to do a comparison between the tooth and whatever that dude's holding.

I actually have to agree that at first glance when compared to an antler the "tooth" does bear a striking resemblance but only at the base. Teeth usually have roots of some kind, even shark teeth so is the protrusion at the bottom of the "tooth" a broken root or base of a small antler?

Update:

http://www.oceansofkansas.com/plesiosaur.html

This link has some pistures of several skulls of what Nessie is thought to be. None of the teeth in the skulls resemble the one in the picture, I guess an argument could be made about how the creature could have evolved and so its teeth might resemble the one in the picture but I'd rather not go there.

[Edited on May 06, 2005 by wyldechylde]

ANIMAL X
I love that show!!!

i will investigate and get back to you with "The Real Story."

I'm willing to buy that it was gored by another deer and then had the other half consumed by whatever happened by, be it badger, fox, pig, whatever. The tooth really doesn't fit with my understanding of a large predator's tooth.

this is a Ree (dutch name) it's europe's most common deer, it lives practically everywhere and it's so small and shy that you can live your life right next to them and never see them once.
my region is literally infested with the things and i've only seen them twice in my life, once a solitary ree at 4am in the middle of the street and once a whole herd of them when a friends dog flushed them out of some shrubs.

as you can see Ree antlers are nearly straight spikes with occasionally a minor branch or barb coming out of the main spike.
it's not a exact match with the loch ness pic since obviously there's individual variation but i'm pretty much positive that it's a small Ree antler none the less.
the second picture is a ree skull, the size, texture and roughness of the antlers indicate that these were pretty old Ree's but they show quite nicely how a Ree antler grows pretty straight with the occasional "barb" shaped branch.

the loch ness pic is quite obviously the antler of a young Ree, it's smooth, has the characteristic antler base and you can see the beginnings of these characteristic barbs.

As fresh as the carcass appears to be, if it were killed by a large predator where they found it, there would be obvious marks around the site, and copious amounts of blood held in the nooks in the rocks. Personally, whenever I find half a carcass at the bottom of a steep, rocky hillside, I don't automatically assume it was attacked by a mythical creature from the lake. Perhaps the rest of its body is somewhere up the fucking hillside it's at the bottom of.
I mean, really. Imagine there's no lake there and you come across this - what would you think?