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fpkk

fpkk

United Kingdom
June 2003

APR 27, 2005 02:08 PM

Nick_Nolte said:
Anti-anti-TV diatribe.




But anything worth watching comes out on DVD and you can watch it without ads, in 5.1 with a digitally enhanced picture...

RockRBoy

RockRBoy

Brooklyn, NY
August 2004

APR 27, 2005 02:19 PM

Nick_Nolte said:
Fuck TV turn off week.

Why is television, as a medium, invalid, while film and photography and music are all embraced as enlightened forms of art? It's just images shown at 24 frames per second, accompanied by a soundtrack. It's exactly as capable of transmitting ideas to an audience as any other form of art... more capable, even, because of the convenience of the technology.



I've always viewed TV as a very worthy medium. There are some stories that are right for film or perhaps a novel or even a play, but others are more suited to television. The way you get to grow with the characters and see true development, and in a sense live with them, is hard to do and I respect it when its done well. This is why reality tv is such shit, althought I've watched my fair share of it, it'll never be what a well written hourlong, or even a good sitcom, can be. I think that a lot of the problem stems from people thinking that the TV watching audience is dumb, which in a lot of cases is true. Take Arrested Development's horrible ratings for instance.

Doghouse_Reilly

doghouse_reilly

I'm lost
February 2004

APR 27, 2005 02:21 PM

fpkk said:

Nick_Nolte said:
Anti-anti-TV diatribe.




But anything worth watching comes out on DVD and you can watch it without ads, in 5.1 with a digitally enhanced picture...



Watching DVD's is still watching TV, though, isn't it?

fpkk

fpkk

United Kingdom
June 2003

APR 27, 2005 02:26 PM

Nick_Nolte said:

fpkk said:

Nick_Nolte said:
Anti-anti-TV diatribe.




But anything worth watching comes out on DVD and you can watch it without ads, in 5.1 with a digitally enhanced picture...



Watching DVD's is still watching TV, though, isn't it?



Technically yes... but like the TiVo continget DVDs only means you build your DVD watching into your life rather than building your life around a TV schedule.

Plus... I don't think advertisers would regard my DVD watching as a valid way for me to enjoy the entertainment they helped fund.

Idjit

Idjit

HOPEFUL

I'm lost

APR 27, 2005 02:26 PM

Nick_Nolte said:

fpkk said:

Nick_Nolte said:
Anti-anti-TV diatribe.




But anything worth watching comes out on DVD and you can watch it without ads, in 5.1 with a digitally enhanced picture...



Watching DVD's is still watching TV, though, isn't it?



I don't think people have objections to the technology, it's the medium. It's also a lifestyle. I don't like having cable in my house because I lack the restraint to not be a passive schmuck when it's available. I'd rather spend my time being productive.

Doghouse_Reilly

doghouse_reilly

I'm lost
February 2004

APR 27, 2005 02:44 PM

I see you guys' (your guys'? feh, language) point, obviously, but it seems pretty presumptuous for someone to dictate other people's viewing habits with a little zapper remote, which is what they are advocating.

I think it's fine if people feel that watching TV is a waste of their time; other people do many things that I would consider a waste of my own time, some even build unhealthy lifestyles around such activities, and I have no beef with them about using their time as they please... just don't try to preach to me what is an acceptable use of my own free time, or prepare to be drowned out by ATHF on full volume.

And if you decide to try to interfere with my tv watching indulgances from outside my window with one of those little zapper remotes, prepare to be greeted with the business end of a louisville slugger. wink

fpkk

fpkk

United Kingdom
June 2003

APR 27, 2005 02:50 PM

Nick_Nolte said:
I see you guys' (your guys'? feh, language) point, obviously, but it seems pretty presumptuous for someone to dictate other people's viewing habits with a little zapper remote, which is what they are advocating.

I think it's fine if people feel that watching TV is a waste of their time; other people do many things that I would consider a waste of my own time, some even build unhealthy lifestyles around such activities, and I have no beef with them about using their time as they please... just don't try to preach to me what is an acceptable use of my own free time, or prepare to be drowned out by ATHF on full volume.

And if you decide to try to interfere with my tv watching indulgances from outside my window with one of those little zapper remotes, prepare to be greeted with the business end of a louisville slugger. wink



Oh Amen to that totally...

I mean if someone did that to me when I was watching DVDs I paid to watch and had planned to watch at a particular time I'd be hella mad. They can't tell from outside your window that you're watching mind rotting trash...

Or, what if you were playing a video game, a few X button presses from caning some bosses ass after several hours of intense battling and suddenly pfit... no picture. By the time you've switched back on all that hard work gone.

I think these remote people need to acknowledge that a TV isn't just for the broadcast.

poptard

poptard

United Kingdom
November 2003

APR 27, 2005 02:58 PM

casio did a watch that was a remote control

it was ace, any TV it could change, it was grate inschool

here it is

its was ace one person on volume one on channels

fpkk

fpkk

United Kingdom
June 2003

APR 27, 2005 02:59 PM

A television is showing an actual television picture of broadcast television in my bedroom AT THIS MOMENT. First time a television has been on in my house for two years...

So this Anti-TV propaganda seems to have backfired a bit.

I am gagging off the amount of dust I scraped from the set though.

Doghouse_Reilly

doghouse_reilly

I'm lost
February 2004

APR 27, 2005 03:06 PM

fpkk said:

Oh Amen to that totally...

I mean if someone did that to me when I was watching DVDs I paid to watch and had planned to watch at a particular time I'd be hella mad. They can't tell from outside your window that you're watching mind rotting trash...

Or, what if you were playing a video game, a few X button presses from caning some bosses ass after several hours of intense battling and suddenly pfit... no picture. By the time you've switched back on all that hard work gone.

I think these remote people need to acknowledge that a TV isn't just for the broadcast.



Even if it was a broadcast, what's the difference? As long as you're not having a daily seizure due to Wapner withdrawl, I don't see what's so different about scheduling your day around going to a theater to see a movie at a certain time, and planning your day around getting to watch a certain tv show at the scheduled time? Is watching XXX 2: State of the Union really much more enlightening and intellectually stimulating than watching something on the History channel?

Instead of TV turn off week, I think there should just be a Boycott Crap week. Or even better, a Boycott Crap lifestyle. But I suppose that distinction is too nuanced for an email meme. wink

AughtNaught

AughtNaught

Phoenix, AZ
January 2005

APR 27, 2005 04:58 PM

messyjessie said:
so how do we get one of these remotes? i want one!



http://www.tvbgone.com/home.php

I love mine. It's great for bars when you don't want to watch figureskating, or to turn the TV off during kareoke biggrin

almostfamous

almostfamous

NEWSWIRE

United Kingdom

APR 27, 2005 05:06 PM

theSpotlessMind said:

geekgurl said:
I don't watch that much TV, but I'm glad I have one. I really don't think it's that big of a deal to watch TV every once in a while. I'm getting sick of people that are like "TV? What's a TV?". If you don't watch TV, fine. Don't. But stop going around saying that people who do shouldn't. whatever




THANK YOU!!!

I hate anti-TV snobs! It's like they make it a point to let the world know that they don't watch TV. I would find it just as ridiculous if someone walked around all day proudly saying that they never read. TV is just a means of conveying information, just like text, the internet, movies, etc. Bad information can be found on any of these media, but you never see the same elitist-tinged outcries against the others as you do with TV.

Just want to add that I don't hate people who don't watch TV, just those that feel it necessary to announce at every spare moment that "TV is crap". My point is that it's no more or no less evil than any of the other means of conveying information.



tv is more evil. i can't remember the last time i picked up a book and turned the page on a cliffhanger to be faced with 14 pages of adverts, and then a little repeat of the last few lines before the ads because they went on so long i forgot what i was reading,

HenryC

HenryC

Philadelphia, PA
November 2003

APR 27, 2005 06:40 PM

I hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate people who hate televison.

If you couldn't make it through that, you're watching too much television.

_El_Zilcho_

_El_Zilcho_

Framingham, MA
April 2003

APR 27, 2005 06:42 PM

Hey, if they donate me some people to hang out with, I'll gladly turn off my TV.

They have to give me money to do stuff with too.

Anton

Anton

Australia
September 2003

APR 27, 2005 08:38 PM

ThisIsIt said:
Life without TV is easy. i'm on almost four years without it.


Time to start up a slow clap.

One_Pure_Thought

One_Pure_Thought

East Greenwich, RI
October 2003

APR 27, 2005 09:25 PM

G1 said:
casio did a watch that was a remote control

it was ace, any TV it could change, it was grate inschool

here it is

its was ace one person on volume one on channels



Hey, I have no idea what you said.

T.V. is anti-productive. It is nice to have it gone, but honestly there's a sick sort of comfort going back to it after a while. It's like "oh my sweet friend is visiting!". And it's hard not to miss the 3 good series on hbo that you have to pay an arm and a leg for.

My trashy sister got her cable shut off so all i heard for months was how life was terrible without tv and what she thought of all the new shitty movies on dvd. I praised the lord when she finally paid off that goddamn bill.

theJACK

theJACK

Japan
April 2005

APR 27, 2005 10:34 PM

Bill Hicks, a dead comedian, once said that "TV is like taking black paint to the third eye".

Not really sure what that means.

I don't mind TV, but what I do find totally inane is people who talk about TV programs, or shit that characters on TV programs said, or repeat entire monologues from TV, because no matter how much inflection, gesture, or amateur acting ability those people use, it always ends up sounding flat and useless, usually generating a stock response or dry laughter from whoever's listening.

Christ, talking about the weather is more interesting than repeating whatever Jon Stewart had to say the night before.

surreal

Suicideguy9999

Suicideguy9999

Austin, TX
April 2005

APR 27, 2005 10:41 PM

I'm sick of no-content adbusters. It's all the rage in the latest trend of selling ideas instead of products. ...Adbusters greatest advertisment is disinformation.

Fuck those guys. Sorry. that wasn't PC. Fuck those monkeys and freedom-of-expression assasinating assholes.

fpkk

fpkk

United Kingdom
June 2003

APR 28, 2005 05:25 AM

The Onion said:

Area Man Constantly Mentioning
He Doesn't Own A Television

CHAPEL HILL, NC Area resident Jonathan Green does not own a television, a fact he repeatedly points out to friends, family, and coworkersas well as to his mailman, neighborhood convenience-store clerks, and the man who cleans the hallways in his apartment building.

Above: Jonathan Green, who tells as many people as possible that he is "fully weaned off the glass teat."

According to Melinda Elkins, a coworker of Green's at The Frame Job, a Chapel Hill picture-frame shop, Green steers the conversation toward television whenever possible, just so he can mention not owning one... "idiot box" is Green's favorite derogatory term for television.

"He uses that one a lot," she said. "But he's got other ones, too, like 'boob tube' and 'electronic babysitter.'"

Elkins said Green always makes sure to read the copies of Entertainment Weekly and People lying around the shop's breakroom, "just so he can point out all the stars and shows he's never heard of."

"Last week, in one of the magazines, there was a picture of Calista Flockhart," Elkins said, "and Jonathan announced, 'I have absolutely no idea who this woman is. Calista who? Am I supposed to have heard of her? I'm sorry, but I haven't.'"

Tony Gerela, who lives in the apartment directly below Green's and occasionally chats with the 37-year-old by the mailboxes, is well aware of his neighbor's disdain for television.

"About a week after I met him, we were talking, and I made some kind of Simpsons reference," Gerela said. "He asked me what I was talking about, and when I told him it was from a TV show, he just went off, saying how the last show he watched was some episode of Cheers, and even then, he could only watch for about two minutes before having to shut it off because it insulted his intelligence so terribly."



God bless The Onion...

And my experiment yesterday worked beautifully. 20 minutes into The Lawnmower Man on BBC1 I was out like a light. Of course that could have been Pierce Brosnan...

Anton

Anton

Australia
September 2003

APR 28, 2005 05:39 AM

Hahaha. That's brilliant. Go The Onion.

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