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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

APR 19, 2005 01:10 PM

William Mayne, author of almost 100 children’s books, used his fame in the 1960’s to get girls between 8- and 16-years-old to enter his home where he subsequently molested them. He was charged with 11 counts of indecent assault.

But one of his most well known fans continues to recommend his books: The Archbishop of Canterbury.

The archbishop, in an interview conducted in front of an audience at The Sunday Times Oxford Literary Festival on Friday, said he found the book powerful because it is about the difficulties of growing up and self-image.

Last night children’s charities criticised the archbishop’s comments. “I’m shocked anyone would say we should be non-judgmental about the works of a man who has abused children and I am particularly appalled that this is coming from a man of God,” said Michele Elliott, director of Kidscape, a child safety group who is herself a children’s author.

“I wouldn’t touch his (Mayne’s) books with a barge pole. Books are the sum of you as a person. To divorce the writings of an author from the author himself is impossible.”

Williams’s comments were, however, defended by Claire Tomalin, who has written books about Samuel Pepys and Charles Dickens. “I don’t think I could name any writer about whom I know anything who hasn’t done something immoral or disgusting or unpleasant. If we were to stop reading books by people who were less than perfect morally, we wouldn’t be left with any books.”

There are numerous figures from the literary and arts worlds whose reputations have survived crime and scandal. Oscar Wilde, the Victorian writer, was jailed for two years for gross indecency.


This is a moral quandary that we’ll have to face if Michael Jackson is convicted of child molestation—do you want to continue to support an artist if that artist is a convicted child molester? Is there a cultural context in which these things exist, or does society make these things complex and horrendous?

catdad

catdad

Portland, OR
August 2002

APR 19, 2005 08:10 PM

Exactly how long is a barge pole?

crispy

crispy

NEWSWIRE

Philadelphia, PA

APR 19, 2005 08:13 PM

Well, at least they were girls ...

wink

pascalpp

pascalpp

Brooklyn, NY
January 2004

APR 19, 2005 08:15 PM

<unfounded satirical conjecture>By the same measure, one should distance oneself from the work of all those perverts who wrote the Bible...</unfounded satirical conjecture>

alpha_hazard

alpha_hazard

Fort Collins, CO
April 2004

APR 19, 2005 08:27 PM

well, gary glitter was into kiddy porn and people still like his music...

Tony_Montana

Tony_Montana

Victoria, BC
February 2004

APR 19, 2005 08:37 PM

Who cares what he did if you like the book, it's not like you have to hang out with the guy.

if

if

Providence, RI
April 2005

APR 19, 2005 08:43 PM

Elliott's just upset that nobody's recommending her books.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

APR 19, 2005 08:51 PM

Well, Oscar Wilde was hardly a child molester. He was jailed for being a ghey.

AceTracer

acetracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

APR 19, 2005 09:06 PM

I'd seperate ones works from his personal problems. Regardless what you think of Michael Jackson the person, some of his music still rocks. Likewise, even if Pete Townshend had been convicted of child porn charges, does that mean I can't like The Who anymore? I think not. Does this apply for other crimes? Can I not like The Sex Pistols because Sid Vicious was a murderer? It's a slippery slope that soon gets ridiculous. Some of the most talented people in the world were both extremely good and extremely bad, and you can't not enjoy one because of the other.

theseeman

theseeman

Asheville, NC
December 2002

APR 19, 2005 09:09 PM

“I don’t think I could name any writer about whom I know anything who hasn’t done something immoral or disgusting or unpleasant. If we were to stop reading books by people who were less than perfect morally, we wouldn’t be left with any books.”

Very true. Sadly true.

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There are numerous figures from the literary and arts worlds whose reputations have survived crime and scandal. Oscar Wilde, the Victorian writer, was jailed for two years for gross indecency."

Complete bullshit. as mentioned he was jailed for villating social norms not harming another.

dickie

dickie

Providence, RI
June 2004

APR 19, 2005 09:13 PM

Lipman Bers rightly defended his study of the work of Oswald Teichm&#252;ller (a nazi) by quoting Plutarch:

It does not of necessity follow that, if the work delights you with its grace, the one who wrought it is worthy of your esteem.

Kris7

Kris7

Bridgewater, MA
July 2003

APR 19, 2005 09:14 PM

This shit is seriously disturbing. I had no idea Mayne was a pedo. His book A Game of Dark was/is a favorite of mine. surreal

Brinstar

Brinstar

Chicago, IL
September 2002

APR 19, 2005 09:17 PM

The whole child molestor writing childrens books things is totally and horribly wrong.

On the other hand, when it comes to like... real literature... I pretty much read whatever, no matter how fucked up the author was in his/her personal life.

In fact, it seems like there aren't many non-fucked up writers out there.

s5

s5

STAFF

San Francisco, CA

APR 19, 2005 09:26 PM

and then there's Wagner.

AceTracer

acetracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

APR 19, 2005 09:36 PM

Brinstar said:
The whole child molestor writing childrens books things is totally and horribly wrong.


It makes complete sense though, he liked children, and that was the best way to get some. Building a theme park in your house is another.

Both Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo are believed to have had sexual encounters with young boys.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

APR 19, 2005 09:39 PM

Plato liked the young flesh as well.

boundcreature

boundcreature

Boston, MA
April 2004

APR 19, 2005 09:48 PM

alpha_hazard said:
well, gary glitter was into kiddy porn and people still like his music...



that's not true. NOBODY likes Gary Glitter.

EdmundOG

EdmundOG

I'm lost
July 2004

APR 19, 2005 10:31 PM

dkmfc said:
pedophile writers?

I bet some of you read this guys books.



Oh, he was so not a pedophile. Just an oddball. And even if he was a pedo, he was celibate, so nobody gets hurt.

andreastesfaye

andreastesfaye

Yellowknife, NT
January 2005

APR 19, 2005 10:38 PM

Cigarette said:
Well, Oscar Wilde was hardly a child molester. He was jailed for being a ghey.



Actually, yes he was, his main use of prostitutes were the young homeless boys whom he gave gifts to, rather then pay...but he was caught anyway....and he was "gay"....Andreas

Sexcaliber

Sexcaliber

New York, NY
January 2005

APR 20, 2005 01:11 AM

Being with underaaged people should not be encouraged, but an adult whom sleeps witha post pubescent is not the same morally, nor is he properly labeled a child molester. In many societies the man was wed to a girl in her teens-now, the sexist aspect is not good, & we understandable may think that adults shouls make partnerships w/each other, but are then whole swaths of people, cultures, & nations who make alliances with, say, mid-teens, horrible monsters? And did never mature love bloom out of that?

It make sense to have age of consent laws, & provide social opprobrium to those who mate w/the very young & vulnerable-but it is not the same, in intent or negative effect, as child molestation. It should be obvious what the author did falls into the worst category.

Sexdwarf

Sexdwarf

Hermosa Beach, CA
February 2003

APR 20, 2005 01:43 AM

what the fuck, since when can a person not be two things, like, molestor/ children's author, or a ninja/fisherman.

AceTracer

acetracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

APR 20, 2005 01:48 AM

Sexdwarf said:
what the fuck, since when can a person not be two things, like, molestor/ children's author, or a ninja/fisherman.


Now you got me pondering how a ninja catches fish; damn you.

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

APR 20, 2005 03:03 AM

alpha_hazard said:
well, gary glitter was into kiddy porn and people still like his music...



Notice that all references to Gary Glitter have disappeared from popular culture. Before conviction you found him or his songs popping up in movies, after conviction he's not there.

Jessewestend

Jessewestend

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

APR 20, 2005 03:48 AM

alpha_hazard said:
well, gary glitter was into kiddy porn and people still like his music...



puke they do?

Fancier

Fancier

Liechtenstein
December 2003

APR 20, 2005 04:58 AM

Neat. That's the 6th time so far this AM that the catholics have made me shiver.

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