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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

APR 12, 2005 12:27 AM

The drug MDMA (commonly called "ecstasy") has been portrayed as one of the great evil of young adults. Schedule I drugs, like ecstasy, cannot be prescribed by a physician under any circumstances with the notable exception of marijuana. But a study done at Harvard Univeristy's McLean Hospital will study how MDMA will effect the mental state of the terminally ill as they face death.



"There are so few palliative care options for the terminally ill," says Dr. John H. Halpern, a psychiatrist who will be conducting this research at Harvard University's McLean Hospital in Belmont, Mass. "And there is anecdotal evidence that MDMA can help them resolve the anxieties they experience without doping them up on tranquilizers."



The study is part of a resurgence in research into the therapeutic uses of psychedelics for severe psychiatric ills that don't respond to traditional treatment. Because of the chemicals' profound ability to alter perception and mood, scientists hope they will melt the psychological barriers that prevent patients from getting better.



"We stand to learn a lot from these drugs, and I hope that the judicious application of this new knowledge would decrease suffering in people who have mental illnesses," says Dr. Francisco A. Moreno, a psychiatrist at the University of Arizona in Tucson who has done psychedelic research.

Because of stringent controls on psychedelics, this research came to a standstill. But Halpern hopes the recent wave of FDA-sanctioned studies will eventually legitimize the therapeutic use of psychedelics. "We're doctors and this is all about trying to heal people," he says.

MDMA and psilocybin (the active ingredient in "magic mushrooms") are now in government-approved studies for obsessive-compulsive disorder, post- traumatic stress disorder and anxiety.



Even the granddaddy of hallucinogens, LSD, widely researched in the 1950s and early '60s to combat depression, schizophrenia, alcoholism and drug addiction, may soon be tested as a treatment for debilitating cluster headaches.



While I don't believe that these studies will decriminalize psychedelic "Schedule I" drugs outright, I think we can all look forward to all the government made LSD, MDMA, and cocaine flooding black market, in addition to the return of CIA-sponsored LSD orgies.

retsin

retsin

Hamilton, ON
January 2003

APR 12, 2005 12:12 PM

when mdma was developed wasn't it used to treat pschiatric patients as a way of getting them to open up during group therapy?

i'm sure pure forms of mdma would go along way to alleviate peoples pain..and could have medical benefits, if the crash of coming down could be avoided. i'm not sure coming down from e is such a good thing for people facing death..unless the intent is to keep them ina constant high.



[Edited on Apr 12, 2005 12:13PM]

Pav

Pav

I'm lost
February 2004

APR 12, 2005 12:46 PM

retsin said:
when mdma was developed wasn't it used to treat pschiatric patients as a way of getting them to open up during group therapy?



It was invented in the early 1900's then ignored until the 70s. And used as a psychiatric tool until its ban in the 80s largely because a bunch of people in Texas liked to party with it.

i'm sure pure forms of mdma would go along way to alleviate peoples pain..and could have medical benefits, if the crash of coming down could be avoided.



I think most of the "crash" people experience is due to the fact that they're taking "ecstasy" (mdma, speed, sometimes other stuff). as opposed to pure mdma. Most people in therapeutic settings work through the entire "experience" as a whole, and find it a positive one.


[Edited on Apr 12, 2005 12:13PM]

retsin

retsin

Hamilton, ON
January 2003

APR 12, 2005 12:54 PM

Pav said:

retsin said:
when mdma was developed wasn't it used to treat pschiatric patients as a way of getting them to open up during group therapy?



It was invented in the early 1900's then ignored until the 70s. And used as a psychiatric tool until its ban in the 80s largely because a bunch of people in Texas liked to party with it.

i'm sure pure forms of mdma would go along way to alleviate peoples pain..and could have medical benefits, if the crash of coming down could be avoided.



I think most of the "crash" people experience is due to the fact that they're taking "ecstasy" (mdma, speed, sometimes other stuff). as opposed to pure mdma. Most people in therapeutic settings work through the entire "experience" as a whole, and find it a positive one.


[Edited on Apr 12, 2005 12:13PM]





cool, thanks!

Lotusmonger

Lotusmonger

Chicago, IL
May 2004

APR 12, 2005 01:19 PM

MK-ULTRA Iraq: Desert Trips!

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

APR 12, 2005 01:33 PM

Old people get appaling mental health treatment; people seem to think that misery is part of getting old. So anything that improves that is a good thing.
It'd be interesting to see how effective E is for treating people about to die. It will also be interesting to see how those around them cope. I found it a bit tricky to be with my father when he was hallucinating on Morphine, it would have been better if he had been happier and maybe a bit more coherant. I guess, I dunno.

trilobyte

trilobyte

Black Rock City, NV
February 2003

APR 12, 2005 01:52 PM

The "crash" associated with taking MDMA (and variants) has to do with the seratonin drain on your body. One of the things the drug does is tells your body to release all its seratonin, helping to create that euphoric high. Depending on the quality and purity of what's being taken, as well as your body's ability to produce seratonin, affect how hard the "crash" affects the individual. One recommendation would be to go with cleaner/purer sources. Another is to look towards 5HTP (sold over the counter at health stores like GNC) which help your body's ability to produce seratonin. If taken just prior to or at the start of the experience, 5HTP can actually heighten or intensify the effects of MDMA (since your body has more seratonin to be released). If taken during the course or at the end of the MDMA experience, it can reduce or in some cases eliminate the "crash" altogether.

odi omnes

Roosty

Roosty

Oak Park, IL
March 2005

APR 12, 2005 02:04 PM

Naive me, what are the risks with mdma? why is it illeagal to begin with?

waldo

waldo

I'm lost
June 2004

APR 12, 2005 02:19 PM

trilobyte said:
The "crash" associated with taking MDMA (and variants) has to do with the seratonin drain on your body. One of the things the drug does is tells your body to release all its seratonin, helping to create that euphoric high. Depending on the quality and purity of what's being taken, as well as your body's ability to produce seratonin, affect how hard the "crash" affects the individual. One recommendation would be to go with cleaner/purer sources. Another is to look towards 5HTP (sold over the counter at health stores like GNC) which help your body's ability to produce seratonin. If taken just prior to or at the start of the experience, 5HTP can actually heighten or intensify the effects of MDMA (since your body has more seratonin to be released). If taken during the course or at the end of the MDMA experience, it can reduce or in some cases eliminate the "crash" altogether.

odi omnes



So MDMA would be a very very bad idea for anyone on Prozac, or other SSRI, for depression?

Pav

Pav

I'm lost
February 2004

APR 12, 2005 02:21 PM

waldo said:
So MDMA would be a very very bad idea for anyone on Prozac, or other SSRI, for depression?



Actually no. It just wouldn't work.

monkeybutt

monkeybutt

I'm lost
May 2004

APR 12, 2005 02:22 PM

finally, someone has some sense, and this wonderful compound is being used for what it was made for.

*waits patiently for some pure mdma to fall into his hands...for...testing. yeah. testing.*

waldo

waldo

I'm lost
June 2004

APR 12, 2005 02:41 PM

Pav said:

waldo said:
So MDMA would be a very very bad idea for anyone on Prozac, or other SSRI, for depression?



Actually no. It just wouldn't work.



Ah, OK. Thanks. I was just wondering if it had any relevance to the alleged bad side-effects of Prozac, because people tend not to admit to illegal drug use so it's hard to figure in to epidemiology.