self-termination

is it selfish to kill yourself?

If you mean is it selfish to give up and leave your friends and family with not only dealing with your own death, but all the shit you've skipped out on, then I'd say yes.

This is a care bear.



He wanted me to tell you "suicide is never funny!"

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[Edited on Mar 20, 2005 by FridgeMagnet]

isn't it self fish to mourn the death of someone who wanted to be dead. shouldn't you be a friend and relize that if thats what they wanted then thats what they should have

yes.

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[Edited on Mar 20, 2005 by FridgeMagnet]

see, thats how i feel. i don't know, i have conflicting views!

Agreed. The only exceptions that I can think of are severely painful terminal diseases, like Dr. Kavorkian (sp?) cases. Then it only seems fair.

Depends. If you're loved by at least one person on this earth than killing youself robs them of the joy you bring to their world.

On the other hand if you're a total cunt then, no, not really. We're all better off without you and finding a parking spot just got that much easier.

So EnfantTerrible should kill himself?

Ha! Bullshit.

You have obviously never heard of The Darwin Awards.

That's a joke, son!

Hmm..I dont know about that. You can know and accept that is what they want, but that does not mean you wont miss them when they are gone. Like if you love someone in terminal pain, you can accept and understand that they might want to die, but you can still be sad that you will never see them again and they are gone forever.

If my mom and dad didn't love me..i'd be chillin with jesus drinkin' mai tai's on the beach...if there is a beach in heaven.

No. Most people with suicidal thoughts also have mental health problems, so the illness mostly is for the way they think.

I urge anyone who has suicidal thoughts to contact a doctor or a suicide help line as soon as they can.

really its selfish on both ends (as fridgemagnet said everything is) you kill yourself because you can't deal with whatever is going on, however you don't think of all the pain you are causing by doing this. at the same time all the people that mourn or have to "deal" with what they left behind should relize that there is maybe a good chance that person is better off now.

either way suicide is fucking stupid, as heartless as it is i have no mercy for it, and yes, i have lost some very close friends to it. like you learned in highschool, it's a permanet solution to a temporary problem. what ever happened in your life that was so bad to make you want to kill yourself. sit back. look at its real impact and intensity and fucking get over it. i hate to sound so harsh and blunt. i'm not a mean person but, it really is that easy.

I know. Hence the " ".

As for EnfantTerrible....Well, why don't we let him decide.

[Edited on Mar 20, 2005 by Lufy]

No. Absofuckinglutely not. Life is a series of really wonderful experiences and a whole lot of really really terrible pain. But, people are resiliant creatures and can overcome an immense amount of pain and suffering, only to go on and have further wonderful, meaningful experiences. Hell, look at anyone who has survived a concentration camp. They've been through about as bad as it gets and I would assume most of them are just happy to still be alive. So whatever pain might be driving person x to kill himself can be dealt with and life can go on (although probably not quickly or easily). However, if he kills himself, he no longer has to deal with any pain, but in the process he has inflicted an enormous amount of suffering on everyone who cares about him. Thus, it is an entirely selfish act, a total cop-out and an unequivically cruel act against loved ones.

Yeah but lifetimes come in varying lengths. A lot of teen suicides are probably more situational than a life time long mental illness.


Sorry, I said I wasn't going to go back into this thread. Ignore me.

[Edited on Mar 20, 2005 by FridgeMagnet]

Every time I've known someone who wanted to commit suicide it was for selfish dumb reasons but I don't think it always is. If you're terminally ill or in pain than maybe not. There are always extreme cases nothing is really "wrong or right" or "selfish or justified."


.....................but those are just my thoughts.

In the sense that "selfish" means that it is done for chiefly personal reasons, yes it is. However, the word selfish has derogatory connotations that aren't always fair. Sometimes it's ok to be selfish, as ultimately you are the one who must be happy with your decisions. Most of the time, however, people commit suicide for seamingly silly reasons. Occasionally, though, I can understand (like in the cases of those with terminal illnesses). The play 'night, Mother presents some very interesting ideas on this, if you haven't seen or read it. However, if you're asking because you are contemplating committing suicide, get counseling and don't do it.

there probably is, but i think the mai tais are nonalcoholic.

Maybe it ain't even really Jesus!