NEWS: College Student Expelled Over Corp. Punishment Essay

theseeman said:
Wait the Jesuits kicked him out over promoting punishment? The jesuits? Didn't they used to kick alot of ass? I might be wrong here but I have an impression of Jesuits as Catholic shock troops. I guess times have changed.

ashmanonar said:

400 years ago, yes they were catholic shock troops. now, they're probably the most liberal/philosophical arm of catholicism. they believe in seeing the world, and being educated, not accepting what is given you by the dogmatics of the church.

ThisIsWhoWeAre said:

Yeah, the shock troop job has been passed on to....

ashmanonar said:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!

that either frightens me or amuses me, i can't decide...

hulasboy said:

except that the school has a reputation to uphold as well. they don't want someone paddling kids with a big diploma on his wall from their school. They have a certain educational philosophy, and in order to protect their reputation they have to choose which students to pass and which students to drop.

Le Moyne administrators may wish to review the statement of the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) that professors have ethical obligations towards their students.
Paragraph 2 of the AAUP’s Statement on Professional Ethics states:

As teachers, professors encourage the free pursuit of learning in their students.
They hold before them the best scholarly and ethical standards of their discipline.
Professors demonstrate respect for students as individuals and adhere to their
proper roles as intellectual guides and counselors. Professors make every
reasonable effort to foster honest academic conduct and to ensure that their
evaluations of students reflect each student’s true merit. They respect the
confidential nature of the relationship between professor and student. They avoid
any exploitation, harassment, or discriminatory treatment of students. They
acknowledge significant academic or scholarly assistance from them. They
protect their academic freedom.

The AAUP guidelines define academic freedom for nearly every institution of higher education in the country. By rejecting them, Le Moyne fails even to minimally fulfill its promise to its students to respect their academic freedom. McConnell’s dismissal indicates a complete failure on the part of Le Moyne to fulfill its duty of providing students the opportunity to freely pursue learning, as it apparently cannot even cope with a student who holds personal views that may differ from those of other students or of faculty members and administrators. Are the beliefs of Le Moyne’s education department so fragile that they will not survive dissent, or are they considered so inerrant that to question them is considered unacceptable? Colleges should welcome opposing points of view, not attempt to eliminate them. Le Moyne’s infringement upon McConnell’s academic freedom and freedom of conscience sends the message to the campus community that official censorship is acceptable and that those with controversial ideas should keep silent or risk being deemed a “mismatch” and summarily dismissed. If Le Moyne truly shares “the ideals of academic freedom found in American institutions of higher education,” students who hold differing viewpoints should be welcome to share their ideas openly. To use personal belief as a reason to dismiss a student is a formula for oppression, dogmatism, and intellectual stagnation.

Telepathboy said:
You know what the interesting thing is? "Spare the rod and spoil the child" isn't from the bible... it's from a poem by Samuel Butler. Seriously, look it up.

I mean, the bible says a few things about beating your kids... mostly in the book of Proverbs... but still. It's always amused me that the most commonly quoted bible phrase... is a poem.

"Love is a boy, by poets styled,
Then spare the rod and spoil the child"

He wrote it in... the late 1600's or so. It's actually a poem ridiculing Christianity... I think Puritans specifically.

*shrug*

-D

VirtuallyLucid said:

Just a note...try reading Proverbs 13:24
It's not like it comes outta thin air.

Not defending it, just saying it is in that book.
I'm not a bible-thumper, but I find religion (all religion) fascinating in its impact on culture.