Freddy Vs. Jason Vs. Michael

No I'm not talking about a new movie. I want to know which slasher is your favorite. Now some movie geekiness before you cast your vote.

Halloween - 1978
-Michael Myers, appears in all the films except for Halloween 3 which departs from the rest of the films. This is because after Michael dies in the second film, John Carpenter had planned on making a new Halloween film each year. But after 3 bombed, they decided to bring Michael back. And since "Halloween" can be seen playing on a TV during Halloween 3, one could say Michael does appear in all the films.
-Michael Myers has been played by Nick Castle, Dick Warlock, George P. Wilbur, Donald L. Shanks, A. Michael Lerner, Chris Durand, and Brad Loree.
-Michael Myers is commonly referred to as "The Shape" when the mask is on or as "The Boogie Man."
-The films are littered with references to older films/directors/ect, for example, Dr. Sam Loomis was named after a character of the same name in Psycho. Furthermore, the films contain references to towns and people associated with the crew, for example, Debra Hill was from Haddonfield, NJ.
-To add suspense to the Halloween films, Michael Myers would play cat and mouse with his victims, stalking them, leaving bait to lure them into certain areas, letting himself be seen briefly, ect. Additionally, if you watch carefully you can see the Michael Myers moves very stiffly and like a puppet, suggesting he was being controlled by a darker, unseen force.

Friday the 13th - 1980
-Jason Voorhees is not the killer in the original Friday the 13th or Friday the 13th part V.
-Jason does not wear his trademark hockey mask until the 3rd film inwhich he takes the mask from one of his victims.Ted White, .
-Jason Voorhees has been played by Ari Lehman, Warrington Gillette, Richard Brooker, Tom Morga (killer in the mask in part 5), Kane Hodder, and Ken Kirzinger.
-Jason's costume in part 2 was modeled after the killer in the 1976 film, The Town That Dreaded Sundown
-The original Friday the 13th and part 4 featured the work of special make-up effect artist and B-Movie legend Tom Savini.
-In part 3, the name Jason is never used by any of the characters in the film.
-Tom Savini agreed to work on part for simply for the chance to kill his creation of Jason Voorhees. But due to popular demand, the francise continued on after the film.
-Jason does make a small appearance in the original Friday the 13th at the end of the movie, when he pulls Alice into the Lake, Tom Savini would walk into theatres near the end of the film just to see how the audiance would react.
-Friday the 13th part VII was the first film inwhich Jason and Freddy were supposed to be pit against each other. But because of disagreements between the studios, the script was changed to feature a telekinetic.
-The dagger and Necronomicon from Evil Dead 2 make a cameo in Frday the 13th part IX.

A Nightmare on Elm Street - 1984
-Fred Krueger has only been played by Robert Englund.
-Wes Craven has stated the name of Fred Krueger came from a childhood bully and the appearance of Freddy came from a hobo that scared him as a child.
-Johnny Depp appears in the original nightmare as well as Freddy's Dead credited as "Oprah Noodlemantra".
-Alice Cooper has a cameo as Freddy's abusive pimp father.
-September 12, 1991 was declared Freddy Krueger day in LA
-Peter Jackson wrote the original script for Freddy's Dead but it wasn't used.
-In the original Nightmare, Johnny Depp listens to the radio station KRGR, the same call letters appear in Freddy Vs. Jason. The KRGR is a reference to Freddy's last night.
-The Hospital Westin Hills is the birthplace of Freddy Krueger and appears in Nightmare 3 and Freddy Vs. Jason.
- The drug Hypnocil was taken by Nancy in Nightmare 3 (and she suggests that it be given to the patients) and it makes another appearance in Freddy Vs. Jason.

And the final Freddy Vs. Jason Vs. Michael triva...
Kyle Labine is the first actor to appear in a Freddy, Jason, and Michael movie. He played Freeburg in Freddy Vs. Jason and a party goer in Halloween Ressurection.

I would have added more but I'm getting tired. Feel free to add your own geek trivia about these characters.

Now for my pick. I would have to go with Michael Meyers for my favorite. He was the first and the most suspenseful in my opinion. No one cat and moused their victims as well as he did.

i never liked myers, he's just boring and unimaginative to me, Jason's unstoppable nature is very cool and he was fantastic in freddy vs jason. (the sleeping bag scene in jason X was hilarious)

overall i'm gonna have to go with freddy though since he's the only one with imagination, a sick sense of humour and some actual lines.

Freddy ... defintiely Freddy.

And, yes, I do sound like Rainman.

Freddy's #3 for me. The jokes and quips get old. It's nice that he's got a personality, but it grates... if I want bad quips and puns based on the action as it happens, then I'll read old issues of Spider-Man.

Jason's probably my favorite, though I can't put my finger on exactly why. Both Myers and Vorhees have that great non-emotive, unstoppable quality that (to me) is truly frightening, but Vorhees wins by an edge.

All three, though, have my vote over characters like Chucky, Candyman, etc...

I can't seem to think of a reason why Mike is so tough to kill. Or rather why he doesn't stay dead other than the plot needs him to not stay dead. At least Freddy had a reason...he became some kinda dream-demon superfreak. And didn't Jason get brought back from the dead in some contrived manner (was it a lightning bolt or something that re-animated him?)? At least these guys have reasons for being unkillable engines of...killing. Michael Myers is just plain ole crazy.

Which may make him the toughest of all. He can't be killed because he's too damned crazy to die. Freddy's probably all, "Why didn't I think of that?"

But seriously, with the mention of trivia, perhaps there is a reason within the movies why Myers can't be killed?

I say, pit their theme music against each other. Freddy doesn't really have any characteristic music, does he? If not, it comes down to Jason theme vs Michael Myers theme. Which theme is more spooky?

che che che che hah hah hah hah

michael myers all day.

I'm kind of partial to Jason. The original "Friday the 13th" was filmed at a camp that I went to for a couple of years. The kept the Camp Crystal Lake sign and hung it on the wall in the main office. Not to mention the stains on the concrete floor of one of the cabins from the faux blood. It made it really easy to scare the crap out of the younger kids.

Pick a favorite? That's like asking if I have a favorite child. No. I love all them the same. For diffrent reasons.

[Edited on Mar 09, 2005 by RudeGirl]

Slander said:


But seriously, with the mention of trivia, perhaps there is a reason within the movies why Myers can't be killed?



he is supposed to be the embodiment of pure evil.

I enjoy Michael Myers the best I mean the fact that he wears a William Shatner mask is just awesome.

If you go by Dr. Loomis in the early films, then Michael had within him pure evil. In the time between when he killed his older sister and when he went after Laurie Strode, he sat catatonic in a mental ward just letting the evil grow within him. Dr Loomis was the only one who could see it. If you go by 4-6 it was because of dark celtic/druid magic and the rune of thorn. Pretty much a cult of dark druids infected at an early age. Tommy Doyle sites an old story of how a child was picked to kill his family for the good of the rest of the tribe. Since Michael has yet to kill everyone in his family, the switch has never been turned off.

Freddy did have theme music in all but the second Nightmare film. My favorite again goes back to Michael Myers. I even have it as the ring tone on my cell phone.

Originally Freddy was meant to be a mute killer like Michael and Jason but the attitude of the character and the actor eventually gave birth to his ability to speak.

Patrick Bateman from American Psycho was actually the weakest of all slashers because he never killed anyone. At the end of the film you find out it was all in his head.

And lastly, I will really have to disagree with you about Michael being unimaginative. The cat and mouse games of stalking and baiting alone prove his imagination. Then when you get to his kills you have the tombstone of his sister planted above one of his victims in Halloween 1, the ice skate through the head in H20, the slow dripping of blood through the IV in Halloween 2. I could go on. Jason was all about being an unstoppable brutal machine. Because of that, you lose out on some of the suspense that is built in the Halloween films. The idea of Freddy is probably the scariest. But through the majority of the films he just isn't scary. He was funny and we would wait for someone to die just to see the overly elaborate way inwhich he would kill them. And I'm sorry, but the fact that Jason wasn't even the killer in two of his films weighs against him in my opinion.

For pure unstoppable mute homicidal single mindedness, it's Michael Myers by a mile. Freddy had more style what with the fedora and the witty quips.

Am I the only one who thought it would be a lot easier if they just hired Shatner and painted his face white?

I went to Camp Crystal Lake once when I was a kid. They changed the name of it but it was originally called that. I guess no kids would wanna go there anymore. But theres a real Crystal Lake.

Freddy or Jason or Michael?

Oh, Michael Jackson is waaaaaay the scariest out of those three.

Ash.

I was kind of half way waiting for someone to post that pic.

well....if we were just going by the first Nightmare, id say freddy...back when he was a scary fucked up child killer. he didnt play games, he didnt think he was don rickles, he just cackled, said, "im gonna getcha," and killed people.

however....since we have to take all of them into consideration....ill go with myers. definitely creepier than freddy, and unlike jason, he is not sympathetic in any way.

but, ill say this for jason, i was cheering for him in freddy v. jason. and not just because we have the same first name.

I did like the phantom of the opera approach the director took with Jason's character in Freddy Vs. Jason. They made you sympathize with him to an extent and gave him more emotion than the previous films had. Jason has the tortured soul thing going for him which causes problems in his "kill all" plan.

Well, the pure evil thing seems to win out as the most prudent choice of unkillability. And it seems to have a simple elegance to it. The druid bit helps though, but now, I'm wondering if I even actually saw any Halloween movies after 3 since all I can remember is a bunch of slashing and killing and screaming. Tempted now, to go back and re-watch them. Well...sorta.

Freddy's theme...is that the "One-two, Freddy's Comin' for you..." thing? If so, Yeah, that does sorta stick out. But does it have the same longevity as Myers' and Jason's themes? Of course, any time you get a bunch of little kids singing a nursery type rhyme about a serial killer from beyond the grave, there is built-in freakiness.