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SUICIDEGIRL

Texas, USA

FEB 17, 2005 03:51 PM

The NHL announced Wednesday that the remainder of the 2004-05 hockey season has been canceled. On Tuesday, the NHL proposed a salary cap of $42.5 million per team; the players offered $49 million.

A lockout over a salary cap shut down the game before it ever got a chance to start in October. Now the NHL, already low on the popularity scale in the United States, becomes the first major pro sports league in North America to lose an entire season to a labor dispute.

"As I stand before you today, it is my sad duty to announce ... it no longer is practical to conduct even an abbreviated season," commissioner Gary Bettman said. "Accordingly, I have no choice but to announce the formal cancellation of play for 2004-05."


Now the question is whether or not hockey be back for the 2005-06 season?


UPDATE: THE NHL IS BACK IN TALKS!!!

Fatality

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

FEB 17, 2005 07:05 PM

Absolutely ridiculous.

llouys

llouys

Brazil
August 2003

FEB 17, 2005 07:10 PM

Wow, that's pretty nuts.

I've been so turned off of hockey since that Bertuzzi thing. That was soooo nasty. I mean, nasty even for hockey.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

FEB 17, 2005 07:13 PM

Bastards. They cancel the season over a difference of 7 Million per team? FUCK that.

*sadly folds up my Red Wings #19 jersey until next season*

frown frown frown frown

The_Jerk

The_Jerk

San Diego, CA
October 2004

FEB 17, 2005 07:16 PM

Damnit the only sport I can watch, and play. I've missed it this year

howdidigethere

howdidigethere

Oroville, CA
June 2004

FEB 17, 2005 07:16 PM

yay!

infil00p

infil00p

Vancouver, BC
October 2002

FEB 17, 2005 07:21 PM

frown

JonnyJonnyH

JonnyJonnyH

Seattle, WA
June 2003

FEB 17, 2005 07:26 PM

Subrosa said:
Bastards. They cancel the season over a difference of 7 Million per team? FUCK that.

*sadly folds up my Red Wings #19 jersey until next season*

frown frown frown frown



And it means #19 for Detroit may not suit up again.

It wasn't really a difference of 7 million. The article is misleading. The owners gave 42 million as a non-negotiable last offer. Once the union countered, it was over.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

FEB 17, 2005 07:33 PM

ankiel66 said:

Subrosa said:
Bastards. They cancel the season over a difference of 7 Million per team? FUCK that.

*sadly folds up my Red Wings #19 jersey until next season*

frown frown frown frown



And it means #19 for Detroit may not suit up again.



Twist the knife a little more, why dontcha?
frown

[Edited on Feb 17, 2005 by Subrosa]

chuckgelman

chuckgelman

New York, NY
July 2004

FEB 17, 2005 07:35 PM

Hockey is dead.

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

FEB 17, 2005 07:43 PM

ankiel66 said:

Subrosa said:
Bastards. They cancel the season over a difference of 7 Million per team? FUCK that.

*sadly folds up my Red Wings #19 jersey until next season*

frown frown frown frown



And it means #19 for Detroit may not suit up again.

It wasn't really a difference of 7 million. The article is misleading. The owners gave 42 million as a non-negotiable last offer. Once the union countered, it was over.



Yeah, the differences between the two were much deeper than that. The players wanted the salary cap to have a lot more wiggle room than the owners did, and much lighter penalties for exceeding it.

My guess is that the NHL wants to break the union. I look for next season to begin with replacement players.

funstarfish

funstarfish

Portland, OR
September 2004

FEB 17, 2005 07:47 PM

i hope next season brings the same cap philosophy with a new commissioner. nobody likes bettman. but i hate the nhlpa even more right now

trucksandtrains

trucksandtrains

Ottawa, ON
December 2004

FEB 17, 2005 07:48 PM

if anyone wants to pay me an average of 1.3 mil to play hockey, sign me up right now.
the nfl has a cap of 80 million dollars, with two and a half time the revenue that the nhl has. and the nhlpa wants a cap close to 50 mil. that's selfish.it's assinine.
screw them. i'd rather watch junior hockey now anyways.
good job nhlpa for alienating some of the games biggest fans.

Costigan

Costigan

Detroit, MI
November 2004

FEB 17, 2005 08:02 PM

Damn it! The Wings were going to win this season too...

I blame it on the expansion teams, they all want to get paid like a real Hockey player but they can't sell tickets. If the NHL didn't have them I bet we wouldn't be in this situation...

New rule, if you live somewhere where you can't make real ice, you don't get a hockey team!

And Louys, not to defend the violence, but Moore was asking for the initial punch. Bertuzzi isn't a goon, he doesn't play like that. But that season in particular the Aves were agitators. And when you push and push like that someone is going to smack you down. Look what they did to Steve Yzerman just the week before.

I have watched the Bertuzzi footage over and over, and I honestly believe that Bertuzzi got a lucky sucker punch in that KO'd Moore, Bertuzzi had ahold of his jersey and when Moore went down his weight pulled Bertuzzi down too, and the force of Todd's weight is what broke his neck, not the punch.

The media said over and over that Bertuzzi maliciously drove Moore's face into the ice, but watch the footage, Todd looks surprised to be falling over.

Sorry for the off topic side track...

dholokov

dholokov

Toronto, ON
April 2003

FEB 17, 2005 08:05 PM

I blame the Ottawa Senators.

But I also blame them for cholera, smallpox, and the tsunami disaster.

Bradley27

Bradley27

Fort Collins, CO
September 2004

FEB 17, 2005 08:13 PM

ONly sport i actually enjoy watching that doesn't have a million time outs or is just plain old boring what a crock of shit

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

FEB 17, 2005 08:14 PM

Big deal.
Hockey hasn't been an interesting sport in years. I'd swear it used to be a good entertaining sport, but I just can't watch it anymore.

monkeybutt

monkeybutt

I'm lost
May 2004

FEB 17, 2005 08:18 PM

and this is news why...?

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

FEB 17, 2005 08:18 PM

Hey, a nickel.

[Edited on Feb 17, 2005 by Jeff_Fries]

abracadabra

abracadabra

Seattle, WA
April 2004

FEB 17, 2005 08:19 PM

who gives a shit???...sports mean nothing to me other than encouraging idiots to get drunk and yell about crap...go to the library and read a book...enrich your life and spend your time focusing on something real...sports is a diversion from doing anything that is meaningful in this life...go look at naked girls at least ....

superstringboy

superstringboy

Salinas, CA
October 2004

FEB 17, 2005 08:19 PM

hose me right up the pooper, hosers.

PogMoThoin

PogMoThoin

Jamaica, NY
January 2004

FEB 17, 2005 08:38 PM

razorbladesonata said:
who gives a shit???...sports mean nothing to me other than encouraging idiots to get drunk and yell about crap...go to the library and read a book...enrich your life and spend your time focusing on something real...sports is a diversion from doing anything that is meaningful in this life...go look at naked girls at least ....



So don't watch. I enjoy sports. I read books too. GASP! multitasking!

That said, screw the greedy owners and players, because they're all set for life. The people who lost the most are the folks who work in concessions, team bus drivers, etc. $10 an hour (if that much) people who are now shit outta luck because players and owners couldn't agree on a couple of million dollars.

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

FEB 17, 2005 08:40 PM

razorbladesonata said:
who gives a shit???...sports mean nothing to me other than encouraging idiots to get drunk and yell about crap...go to the library and read a book...enrich your life and spend your time focusing on something real...sports is a diversion from doing anything that is meaningful in this life...go look at naked girls at least ....



I don't like the majority of sports, but that doesn't mean there is no value to them. You need to redirect your pent up rage from getting beat up by jocks in high school or something.

Clydeftones

clydeftones

Danbury, CT
February 2004

FEB 17, 2005 08:42 PM

scottra said:

New rule, if you live somewhere where you can't make real ice, you don't get a hockey team!



So what do yout ell to the Tampa Bay franchise? They just won the Stanley Cup.

Also, someone said the owners are jsut trying to break the union, thats a complete exaggeration. Last season the NHL lost $225 million, the Islanders alone were $25 million in the red. would you want to own a team if you were paying out 25 million dollars each season?

NHL has no TV contract, terrible attendance, watered down teams due to overexapnsion and a bad image, they need a hard cap more then anyone else. The NFL is the most sucessful league in the land, and they have a cap tahts hard as a rock, so that 1 team doesnt act like the Yankees, so that stars flurish in various amrkets, so that every team can win.

The Players Reps vastly underestimated the resolve of the owners, and cost them a season. Most teams lost alot of money from canceling teh season, shockingly, not as much as they would have lost if they played the season.

Alos, Gary Betmann guarenteed a season in 05-06, replacement players? hopfully not, but there will be hockey next season, in all likelyhood.

Clydeftones

clydeftones

Danbury, CT
February 2004

FEB 17, 2005 08:44 PM

razorbladesonata said:
who gives a shit???...sports mean nothing to me other than encouraging idiots to get drunk and yell about crap...go to the library and read a book...enrich your life and spend your time focusing on something real...sports is a diversion from doing anything that is meaningful in this life...go look at naked girls at least ....



*holds a gun to your head and forces you to click this thread*

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