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JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

FEB 14, 2005 11:33 AM

Wal-Mart, America's biggest employer and Galactic Empire of realtors, has been ordered to pay $135,540 to settle charges that it violated child labor laws. The company stopped kicking a puppy long enough to deny the charges, but agreed to pay the penalty.

The 24 violations, which occurred at stores in Arkansas, Connecticut and New Hampshire, had to do with teenage workers who used hazardous equipment such as a chain saw, paper balers and fork lifts.

...

Child labor laws prohibit anyone under 18 from operating hazardous equipment.



At least one U.S. Congressman has publicly voiced whether the Labor Department handles Wal-Mart with kid gloves. Rep. George Miller (D-CA) made special note of a Labor Dept. policy that notifies Wal-Mart 15 days in advance before investigating potential wage and hour infractions, theoretically allowing the company to cover up potential abuses.

"I don't know if the Department of Labor threw in the towel or whether Wal-Mart put enough political pressure on them that they ended up with a sweetheart deal," Miller said, adding that he will ask the department's inspector general this week to review the agreement.

"I don't know if there's anything in Wal-Mart's background with regards to allegations of violations of labor laws that would make any suggestion Wal-Mart has earned the right for this kind of treatment," Miller said.



Taking into account allegations of unfair treatment of female employees, taking advantage of undocumented workers, questionable anti-union policies, and forcing unpaid overtime on workers, and these child labor charges, Wal-Mart may have just hit for the evil cycle.

jaLopY

jaLopY

I'm lost
December 2004

FEB 14, 2005 03:05 PM

I think the most surprising thing in the is article is the 'chain saw'. At a retail store, what is a chain saw needed for?

Dougjustdoug

Dougjustdoug

United Kingdom
February 2005

FEB 14, 2005 03:08 PM

Obviously there wasnt enough cash involved for them to even give a damn...

Roger_Camden

Roger_Camden

Jacksonville, FL
December 2003

FEB 14, 2005 03:14 PM

Wal-Mart will not cease until it has us all "saving" 24 hours a day.

Can you not see it as the beast that it truly is?

Coming soon: Wal-Mart housing for employees and gated communities (Megacity 1, here we come).

whatever Only some of that was a joke.

Koenigsegg

Koenigsegg

I'm lost
July 2004

FEB 14, 2005 03:17 PM

jaLopY said:
I think the most surprising thing in the is article is the 'chain saw'. At a retail store, what is a chain saw needed for?



for slashing prices in half!!

jaLopY

jaLopY

I'm lost
December 2004

FEB 14, 2005 03:20 PM

Koenigsegg said:

jaLopY said:
I think the most surprising thing in the is article is the 'chain saw'. At a retail store, what is a chain saw needed for?



for slashing prices in half!!


Oh no! I should of thought of that. Nice one. wink

ThisIsWhoWeAre

ThisIsWhoWeAre

Oakland, CA
July 2004

FEB 14, 2005 03:21 PM

jaLopY said:
I think the most surprising thing in the is article is the 'chain saw'. At a retail store, what is a chain saw needed for?


Most likely in a tree lot during holidays. I don't know about Wal-Mart, but when I worked at a Home Depot we used electric chainsaws to trim/even the bottoms of trees.

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

FEB 14, 2005 03:24 PM

Come on, quite a few employers do this. I operated power tools, propane torches, chainsaws, forklifts, etc before I was 18. You're just feigning outrage because it was China Mart that did it.

Koenigsegg

Koenigsegg

I'm lost
July 2004

FEB 14, 2005 03:25 PM

i am the only person left in america who loves wal-mart. cheap stuff available 24 hours a day. and there is one near you. so far as the laundry list of allegations against them, oh well. it's the 21st century. everybody is an asshole.

sadisticmika

sadisticmika

I'm lost
July 2004

FEB 14, 2005 03:27 PM

I prefer Targe't...

Cash

Cash

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

FEB 14, 2005 03:33 PM

stockula said:
Come on, quite a few employers do this. I operated power tools, propane torches, chainsaws, forklifts, etc before I was 18. You're just feigning outrage because it was China Mart that did it.




Not every employer scoffs at the law. If a small, privately owned deli can afford to tell me not to use the slicer until I was 18...a huge retailer can fine someone else in a blue smock who's 18 or over to operate the chainsaw.

Twatzilla

Twatzilla

New York, NY
September 2004

FEB 14, 2005 03:33 PM

Theres probably a lot of child hours laws they violated too.
But Thats a victimless crime, right?

Ahriman

Ahriman

North York, ON
February 2003

FEB 14, 2005 03:37 PM

Koenigsegg said:
It's the 21st century. everybody is an asshole.



Best...statement...ever

FridgeMagnet

FridgeMagnet

Chicago, IL
November 2004

FEB 14, 2005 03:52 PM

Koenigsegg said:

jaLopY said:
I think the most surprising thing in the is article is the 'chain saw'. At a retail store, what is a chain saw needed for?



for slashing prices in half!!



Zing!

squerk

squerk

Seattle, WA
December 2004

FEB 14, 2005 04:11 PM

It is so Karmic that days after I shop at Wal-Mart for the first time in years, a thread is posted to smack me up side the head for my transgression. LOL Well, thar ya go...

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

FEB 14, 2005 04:31 PM

BillHaverchuck said:


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Child labor laws prohibit anyone under 18 from operating hazardous equipment.


I don't want to derail this thread, but what about all those 17 year olds that join the US army?

Noir

Noir

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

FEB 14, 2005 04:40 PM

"The company stopped kicking a puppy long enough to deny the charges..."

Hil-fucking-arious.

ThisIsWhoWeAre

ThisIsWhoWeAre

Oakland, CA
July 2004

FEB 14, 2005 04:41 PM

demetrius_z said:

BillHaverchuck said:


...
Child labor laws prohibit anyone under 18 from operating hazardous equipment.


I don't want to derail this thread, but what about all those 17 year olds that join the US army?


Just so long as they don't try to kill Iraqis with forklifts or chainsaws, what's the problem?

GoatsGoToHell

GoatsGoToHell

Stockton, IL
OLD SKOOL

FEB 14, 2005 04:45 PM

jaLopY said:
I think the most surprising thing in the is article is the 'chain saw'. At a retail store, what is a chain saw needed for?



To cut the kid out of the paper balers after he crashed the fork lift into it of course. Damn kids! mad biggrin

JoshXXX

JoshXXX

Northborough, MA
March 2004

FEB 14, 2005 04:48 PM

I'm surprised that's all the infractions they could find. I worked there from 16 to 19 and broke so many of those child laws myself the whole store should have been shut down. Going to school full time and working 50 hours a week, I knew how to operate all the heavy equiptment, I would work way past 11 on school nights, and a multitude of other infractions. When it comes down to brass tax, nobody cares that they allow that to happen because they throw enough money around to get people to look the other way. Good, they had to pay 135,000 in fines. They only make billions a year, so that should really piss them off. Sam Walton wiped his ass with 135,000, and now the CEO and board members are all laughing at the government and us. Especially us.

JohnClement

JohnClement

Silver Spring, MD
January 2004

FEB 14, 2005 04:48 PM

Noir said:
"The company stopped kicking a puppy long enough to deny the charges..."

Hil-fucking-arious.



I didn't want to come out and say it, but I was kind of proud of that. Glad you noticed.

PsychicGoldfish

PsychicGoldfish

HOPEFUL

Orono, ME

FEB 14, 2005 04:55 PM

meh, i was operating chain saws at age 11 with my stepdad. unpaid, i might add.

CaptainDeviant

CaptainDeviant

Tacoma, WA
February 2005

FEB 14, 2005 05:25 PM

Walmart made a place for me in their workforce after I became Dissabled. I had worked for Fred Meyers for nine years and was the top salesman in my department. Not only do they "allow" me to work, they provide medical and prescriptions. I have worked there for six years now, and have set such a good example that my store hired three more people in wheelchairs. One of these people no longer uses a wheelchair because of a knee replacement surgery wal-mart paid for.

meanwhilethecat

meanwhilethecat

Calgary, AB
October 2003

FEB 14, 2005 05:50 PM

ThisIsWhoWeAre said:

demetrius_z said:

BillHaverchuck said:


...
Child labor laws prohibit anyone under 18 from operating hazardous equipment.


I don't want to derail this thread, but what about all those 17 year olds that join the US army?


Just so long as they don't try to kill Iraqis with forklifts or chainsaws, what's the problem?



in america i dont think guns or tanks are hazardous equipment...theyre a way of life, and a right!
whatever wink

[Edited on Feb 14, 2005 7:02PM]

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

FEB 14, 2005 06:05 PM

CaptainDeviant said:
Walmart made a place for me in their workforce after I became Dissabled. I had worked for Fred Meyers for nine years and was the top salesman in my department. Not only do they "allow" me to work, they provide medical and prescriptions. I have worked there for six years now, and have set such a good example that my store hired three more people in wheelchairs. One of these people no longer uses a wheelchair because of a knee replacement surgery wal-mart paid for.



I'm glad you have found a situation you're happy with, but I hardly think Wal-Mart's treating 1 or 2 employees well justifies their abuse of countless others.

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