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Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

FEB 14, 2005 08:35 PM

aegies said:
cnn actually has a better version of this story here.

the best quote is from one of the teachers repeating an experience with one of the young students who had been attending the bible classes.

"Beverly Ridell, who grew up going to the Staunton schools, teaches first- and second-grade Sunday school at church and opposes religious classes during school time.

"I asked them whether Jesus was a Christian and they said 'yes.' When I said, 'Jesus was a Jew,' one girl said, 'But Jesus was a good person,"' Ridell said."

stuff like that is exactly why that church shouldn't be related to that school in any way.


Hey, from the mouths of babes.

katiebarthedoor

katiebarthedoor

Louisville, KY
December 2004

FEB 14, 2005 08:36 PM

Remj said:
, learn how to think critically...hopefully that can be covered through your public schools.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

heheheh

hoooo

*wipes tears*

FallFromGrace

FallFromGrace

Seattle, WA
March 2004

FEB 14, 2005 09:00 PM

Someone gets upset + Christianity is what upset them = News. wink

I agree, it should be off campus. Better yet, teens in highschool who have a christian family should have already been taught their scriptures before they were even in high school.

And I disagree that using religion is the only way to teach morality, but on the same token what methods of teaching morality did you really have in school? Sex Ed? Math class? "Be nice to someone you hate" Day? The solution is obviously not putting up the 10 commandments. no one is going to look at them and say,

"Hmm... Oh! It's 'Thou Shalt not Kill!' I didn't know that!" If you haven't learned that little moral nugget by the time you get into high school, you've got bigger problems than the bible thumpers going to their own little class. Just like a person's faith, Morality should be taught to people before they are in high school.

But the whole thing is "passing the buck. Parent's aren't gonna teach their children; so they want the teachers to. Teachers are pretty much babysitters with curriculum, and they aren't gonna teach morals. Society as a whole pretty much assumes that it's the other guy's job to teach values... if they believe that values exist at all.

Trevallion

Trevallion

Murfreesboro, TN
February 2004

FEB 14, 2005 09:10 PM

Heh. I went to a christian school for a year where they had bible classes once a day. I got a credit in bible. Shit didn't help me out any. wink

reprobate

reprobate

New Orleans, LA
December 2002

FEB 14, 2005 09:15 PM

christopher said:
Children really don’t need one more thing to tease other children. If parents want their children to have a solid Christian education in addition to their other studies, the State isn’t paying for it, and other organizations are footing the bill, I say why not allow these classes to occur. I think you can teach morality in a secular society, but for some parents, that methodology is simply not enough.



Either I'm misreading you or youre missing the point. The point is that that the state is footing the bill. They are providing the physical campus on which private religious instruction is being provided and they are doing it during the school day. The taxpayers of Virginia, oddly enough, kind of have a right to expect that the schools they pay for are used for, you know, school, especially during school hours. Whats more, school in this country is roughly six hours a day 180 days of the year leaving ~4730 waking hours outside of school to learn all about Jesus. I think thats plenty of time.

Attack_Macaque

Attack_Macaque

Mesquite, TX
September 2004

FEB 14, 2005 11:15 PM

Fuck. mad Is it too much to ask that publicly funded schools use the time and resources they've been allotted to teach our children science, or math, or critical thinking skills, or to address any of the countless other curricular deficiencies in our education system, rather than wasting time and resources indoctrinating them in the dubious morality of the bible - the same book, mind you, in which, for example, the Hebrew god etches "thou shalt not kill" in stone shortly before telling his people to purge all the nonbelievers out of their new promised land?

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

FEB 14, 2005 11:29 PM

BFD. Is it required? No? Then so what? There were elective bible classes in my public high school. I wasn't interested, so I didn't take them.

Some colleges REQUIRE incoming freshmen to read the Koran. IN North Carolina, if I remember right. Some elementary school have field trips to mosques and Islam immersion courses. Yet this doesn't freak out knee-jerk liberals who recoil at any vestige of Christianity in public spaces.

jaLopY

jaLopY

I'm lost
December 2004

FEB 14, 2005 11:48 PM

reprobate said:

christopher said:
Children really don’t need one more thing to tease other children. If parents want their children to have a solid Christian education in addition to their other studies, the State isn’t paying for it, and other organizations are footing the bill, I say why not allow these classes to occur. I think you can teach morality in a secular society, but for some parents, that methodology is simply not enough.



Either I'm misreading you or youre missing the point. The point is that that the state is footing the bill.

I don't think you are misreading. I should have read the articles. I was misled by these remarks.

jaLopY

jaLopY

I'm lost
December 2004

FEB 14, 2005 11:51 PM

stockula said:
BFD. Is it required? No? Then so what?


It is an inefficient use of taxpayers' money? Thats a good reason.

Admiral_Pants

Admiral_Pants

Austin, TX
May 2004

FEB 14, 2005 11:59 PM

stockula said:
BFD. Is it required? No? Then so what? There were elective bible classes in my public high school. I wasn't interested, so I didn't take them.

Some colleges REQUIRE incoming freshmen to read the Koran. IN North Carolina, if I remember right. Some elementary school have field trips to mosques and Islam immersion courses. Yet this doesn't freak out knee-jerk liberals who recoil at any vestige of Christianity in public spaces.


Sources, please?

rottenart

rottenart

Norman, OK
February 2004

FEB 15, 2005 12:08 AM


"I asked them whether Jesus was a Christian and they said 'yes.' When I said, 'Jesus was a Jew,' one girl said, 'But Jesus was a good person,"' Ridell said."



i find that hilarious and scary at the same time.

SouthernBelle

SouthernBelle

Charlotte, NC
December 2004

FEB 15, 2005 10:53 AM

OMG....that's my home town!!! shocked
The state director....my 4th grade teacher! WOW!!

I went to WRE (Bible Class) once a week...they sent home a permission slip at the beginning of school....if your parents didn't sign it, you stayed in your normal class room and just goofed off for 45 minutes!!

Xanippi

Xanippi

HOPEFUL

Richmond, VA

APR 27, 2006 09:30 PM

dkmfc said:
heroin in school?? what the fuck...



I spent a month in Staunton and hung out with a lot of kids there. They thought it was hell. nothing to do. they were all on really hardcore drugs.

Andvari

Andvari

Calgary, AB
April 2005

APR 27, 2006 10:09 PM

Xanippi said:

dkmfc said:
heroin in school?? what the fuck...



I spent a month in Staunton and hung out with a lot of kids there. They thought it was hell. nothing to do. they were all on really hardcore drugs.



Feeling like resurrecting old threads tonight? wink

Xanippi

Xanippi

HOPEFUL

Richmond, VA

APR 27, 2006 11:07 PM


Feeling like resurrecting old threads tonight? wink



i'm stalking christopher

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