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Christopher

Portland, OR

November 2002

JAN 27, 2005 10:26 PM

CULTURE: Suicidal Train Derailer Could Face Death Penalty

Juan Manuel Alvarez, the man who causedand surviveda train wreck in California will be charged with murder and face the death penalty. Alvarez parked his car on railroad tracks Wednesday in a suicide attempt; the murder charges may fulfill his wish because he faces the death penalty.

Authorities say he also had slashed his wrists and stabbed himself at some point during his aborted suicide attempt. He remained hospitalized Thursday, and a court hearing was set for Friday.

District Attorney Steve Cooley said Thursday prosecutors were evaluating Alvarez's mental state in deciding a possible punishment, but he asserted that the man's mental issues were no defense.

"His despondency doesn't move me," Cooley said. "The mere fact that he was a little upset or despondent doesn't mean he has a defense for anything."

Authorities say Alvarez drove his green Jeep Cherokee into the path of a Metrolink commuter train early Wednesday. He then changed his mind and got out of the vehicle just before the Jeep was struck by a train heading to Los Angeles, police said. That train derailed, plowed into a parked freight train and struck another train heading in the opposite direction. The second train also derailed.

Another suicidal man in Orange County parked his car on railroad tracks while he was evading police, but a dispatcher convinced him to give up.

dem_z

United Kingdom

June 2004

JAN 28, 2005 10:01 AM

"a little upset or despondant"? WTF?

GuidedByVices

Minneapolis, MN

December 2004

JAN 28, 2005 10:12 AM

They should not give this suicidal wingnut the pleasue of the death penalty unless he eats both trains he fucked up. And not just "ok, you finished the engine and a commuter car, you can die now" NO. He has to finish everything and survive it. Then he can die.

PointBlank

New York, NY

November 2004

JAN 28, 2005 10:13 AM

What do they do to thread derailers? Make them join the 105?

[Edited on Jan 28, 2005 by Point_Blank]

Koenigsegg

I'm lost

July 2004

JAN 28, 2005 10:20 AM

THIS THREAD GOT SERVED

Motionboy

Vancouver, BC

January 2004

JAN 28, 2005 10:25 AM

I think they should feed him celery till the end of his natural life and force him to watch teletubbies all day.

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA

July 2004

JAN 28, 2005 10:29 AM

Murder? He didn't have intent. I guess they're going to argue Extreme Recklessness, but given the circumstances I'm not sure that'll fly with a jury.

Unless they're charging him with Felony murder for death during the commission of a suicide. It's a little fishy either way.

I'm guessing this is a bargaining tactic. Get the guy to plead to a lesser charge. Or I could just be watching too much Law and Order

SilverRevolver

United Kingdom

May 2004

JAN 28, 2005 10:39 AM

I think it's a wonderful irony.

I don't sympathise with suicide at all, because it's the ultimate cop out, the ultimate self-victimization. If people would just take responsibility for the shit in their lives all obsticales can be overcome. Not only that, this man was too cowardly to even do it himself, he has to put himself in a position where other people will obdviously be hurt. He deserves whatever he gets.

Eponine

Denver, CO

March 2003

JAN 28, 2005 10:42 AM

i think that guy should have to live out the rest of his damn life in prison. he doesn't deserve to die. what a fucker.

Sivart

Saskatoon, SK

June 2004

JAN 28, 2005 10:43 AM

yeah, he had no intent to kill anyone (except himself), so technically, doesn't that fall under manslaughter, not murder?

of course, that statement is based on VERY limited knowlege of the legalities behind stuff like this.

Mullen

San Diego, CA

April 2003

JAN 28, 2005 10:49 AM

Sivart said:
yeah, he had no intent to kill anyone (except himself), so technically, doesn't that fall under manslaughter, not murder?

of course, that statement is based on VERY limited knowlege of the legalities behind stuff like this.

I agree, but if you place a SUV on light rail train tracks, would you not suspect that you might harm the people in the light rail trains?

I don't see how they will get 1st degree murder. I don't see thoughtful intent.

PointBlank

New York, NY

November 2004

JAN 28, 2005 10:52 AM

Sivart said:
yeah, he had no intent to kill anyone (except himself), so technically, doesn't that fall under manslaughter, not murder?

of course, that statement is based on VERY limited knowlege of the legalities behind stuff like this.

You can be charged with murder if the results of your actions are negligent and would reasonably be expected to result in someones death.

I could swing an axe on a crowded train, not meaning to kill anyone (just for exercise), but if i chop off someone's head, I'm going to be charged with murder.

maxx

Los Angeles, CA

July 2002

JAN 28, 2005 10:56 AM

the idea of killing a guy who wanted to die doesn't seem like much of a punishment.

I think they should auction him off to companies as a lab guinea pig. I would gladly buy any shampoo that says "not tested on animals but rather carelessly tested on that asshole who parked in front of the train."

dpk

Seattle, WA

November 2004

JAN 28, 2005 11:00 AM

If we're going to discuss the issue as a "he should have known what would happen" sort of thing, we should also discuss the responsibility of the train operators (the company):

Crash reignites dispute over pushing trains

"If a locomotive had hit that Jeep Cherokee, it wouldn't have derailed and hit another train, and you wouldn't have 11 people dead," said Bob Tucker, a railroad industry consultant in Amarillo, Texas.
...
But a 1996 administration study looking at the impact of a head-on crash between a locomotive and cab car found that above 35 mph, occupants in the cab car likely would suffer severe injury or fatality.

The study also noted the concern that "occupants of the relatively exposed cab car, including the engineer, are vulnerable to serious injury or fatality in the event of a collision with either a road vehicle at a grade crossing or with another train."

I can't believe I'm agreeing with a union on anything, but I think this just makes sense. If this guy gets the death penalty, some high level person at Metrolink ought to at least share a cell with the guy while he's waiting to die.

DireChocobo

Fairburn, GA

July 2004

JAN 28, 2005 11:30 AM

What ever happened to good old shooting yourself? Why you gotta be all fancy and shit?

That being said, let the fucker rot in jail for the rest of his life.

katiebarthedoor

Louisville, KY

December 2004

JAN 28, 2005 11:34 AM

thats what he wants!
so they should make him jump off the highlander cliff.
he will be immortal.
ha! take that.

unnecessaryz

Astoria, NY

July 2003

JAN 28, 2005 11:41 AM

Maxx said:
I would gladly buy any shampoo that says "not tested on animals but rather carelessly tested on that asshole who parked in front of the train."

I bought the lipstick that they used on the inside of his penis for my girlfriend.

Frenchy

San Francisco, CA

November 2004

JAN 28, 2005 12:00 PM

Next time someone should tell him to STEP the fuck OUT of his Jeep if he really wanna die...
The stupid mother fucker had to die in his car huh...

Eat_Shit

Los Angeles, CA

August 2004

JAN 28, 2005 12:15 PM

He may be sentenced to death but it will be YEARS before it's actually carried out. Take Richard Ramirez for example. Fucking Crap!

Feild

Quakertown, PA

December 2004

JAN 28, 2005 12:17 PM

katiebarthedoor said:
thats what he wants!
so they should make him jump off the highlander cliff.
he will be immortal.
ha! take that.

C'mon Yall commence the Jigglin'

GramNegative

I'm lost

October 2004

JAN 28, 2005 12:23 PM

If only we had suicide booths...

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA

February 2004

JAN 28, 2005 01:40 PM

Make him rot for the rest of his life in prison. Or out of it. Have a guard with him 24/7 to make sure he can't kill himself.

Not really, but he needs to rot the rest of his life. The death penalty is too good for anybody this fucking stupid or selfish. Not to mention, it is what he wants.

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA

February 2004

JAN 28, 2005 01:44 PM

dspsg said:
If only we had suicide booths...

I'd settle on having a robot friend like Bender

AcidGrampa

Berkeley, CA

September 2003

JAN 28, 2005 02:50 PM

Only on planet earth.

jrave

Italy

January 2004

JAN 28, 2005 04:36 PM

give him life in prison, then everyfriggin day of his life have a person come in to the cell and say "You can't even kill yourself without fucking it up!!".
that oughta make his last days on earth quite enjoyable.

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