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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

JAN 15, 2005 01:14 AM

A New Haven, Connecticut church and its rector have decided to protest the Episcopal Church's position against granting same-sex marriages. The protest? A moratorium on weddings, homosexual and heterosexual alike. From the piece this morning in the New York Times:

The decision, conveyed on Thursday in a letter from the priest to the 115 families of St. Thomas's Episcopal Church, is a novel challenge to the social and religious barriers to marriage between homosexuals.

Some Episcopal churches have handled the problem by offering gay couples a blessing ceremony that is not legally considered a marriage. Lay leaders at St. Thomas's have decided that the absence of a ritual at the heart of a church's spiritual and social functions is a powerful way to protest what they consider a form of religious discrimination.

The church has adopted the new policy even though no gay couples have asked to be married there.

Only about five heterosexual couples a year seek to be married at St. Thomas's. The Rev. Michael F. Ray, the church's priest, said he would refer those couples to one of a dozen other Episcopal churches in the area. He also said he would ask the couples "to postpone their marriage and stand in solidarity with same-sex couples so they understand what it's like not to have that privilege."



The church has lost several families in the past weeks since initially granting Father Michael Ray the right to perform same-sex marriages—it has become the first Episcopal church in the country to do so. The decision, made by a 10 to 1 vote within governing body of the parish, caused controversy and led directly to end all marriages. Such a decision, and the reaction to it, is representative of a much larger issue within the church that was set off last year with the ordination of the openly gay Bishop Gene Robinson in New Hampshire.

This show of solidarity from the congregation will hopefully not be the last within the sprawling Episcopal Church. Regardless of the outcome, though, this could be the first shot fired in what may become a long and drawn-out battle over the direction of this Christian community with regard to same-sex unions.

Clairevoyance

Clairevoyance

Tallahassee, FL
July 2004

JAN 15, 2005 04:03 PM

surreal

[Edited on Jan 15, 2005 7:07PM]

Jule

Jule

Pompano Beach, FL
September 2004

JAN 15, 2005 04:14 PM

Resident_Diesel said:
surreal

[Edited on Jan 15, 2005 7:07PM]



smile Ditto

clintron

clintron

Portsmouth, NH
September 2003

JAN 15, 2005 06:05 PM

The minister of the Unitarian Universalist church I used to attend will not marry any couple until she can marry homosexual couples.
Nobody cares about crazy UU's though, and I applaud the actions of these many Episcopalians for standing up and saying that gay people should just be treated like people, not like gay people.

Vore

Vore

United Kingdom
January 2005

JAN 15, 2005 06:23 PM

They can still get married by Elvis lookalikes in Las Vegas like the world's A listers can't they though?

Pip

Pip

Framingham, MA
OLD SKOOL

JAN 15, 2005 07:35 PM

Avalari said:

Resident_Diesel said:
surreal

[Edited on Jan 15, 2005 7:07PM]



smile Ditto



You are both way off base. This fight within the episcopal church is huge. I think this is a greta step and I aplaud the efforts of those within the christian community to fight for equal rights for all!

dpk

dpk

Seattle, WA
November 2004

JAN 15, 2005 09:00 PM

Fewer people getting married? Maybe it'll lead to a lower divorce rate, and save us all (us singles too) a lot of time and money.

pabbott_03301

pabbott_03301

Auburn, ME
February 2004

JAN 16, 2005 02:26 AM

The Christian conservatives have always said that homosexual marriage would destroy the institution. Guess they are right.

_Elichrusos

_Elichrusos

Australia
November 2004

JAN 16, 2005 04:14 AM

Brilliant! Perhaps all hope is not lost. I wish someone would do something like this here...

PiratePete

PiratePete

Murrieta, CA
September 2004

JAN 16, 2005 04:55 AM

OK so what will the next step be? I would like to see the Mormon church take a giant leap, but I know that won't happen in the near future. I am just surprised that any christian group would recognize a gay marrage. Maybe the moral majority is finally breaking down and seeing the light.

V_Smad

Maclay

Maclay

United Kingdom
March 2004

JAN 16, 2005 10:03 AM

viking_samurai said:
I am just surprised that any christian group would recognize a gay marrage.

V_Smad



The United Church of Canada has been openly supporting gay marriage since 2000.

misrael

misrael

I'm lost
April 2004

JAN 16, 2005 10:17 AM

The government may allow homosexual marriage and there will be some debate, however the government cannot require churches to preform gay marriages if they choose not to. Doing so would violate first amendment rights of said religious institution.

Jena

Jena

New York, NY
June 2003

JAN 16, 2005 10:28 AM

I don't understand this mainstream acceptable stance against gay marriages. What if there was an uprising against interacial marriages, would that be ok, too? No, that would be racist, but it's still always ok to be a homphobe. God bless us. mad puke

BigBlack81

BigBlack81

Atlanta, GA
November 2004

JAN 16, 2005 10:49 AM

I just love that my home city of New Haven is doing this! Makes me want to move back home. biggrin

WelnTaod

WelnTaod

Portland, OR
September 2003

JAN 17, 2005 08:31 AM

I live less than a 1/2 mile away from this and heard no press about this! It shows that I should get active far more locally than I'd thought possible and start reading the Times more! biggrin