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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

DEC 30, 2004 11:41 PM

When Desmond Tutu was on The Daily Show, it was one of the first times I'd ever seen Jon Stewart come close to crying. Tutu's critique of America, our place in the world, and our relationship with God left Stewart speechless. Now, after a tsunami, strife in the Middle East, and an election, Tutu weighs in on how religion fits into our daily behavior: not in a structured, hegemonic "red state/blue state" cluster-fuck, but with a very real, moral, and ethical foundation.

I keep having to remind people that religion in and of itself is morally neutral. Religion is like a knife. When you use a knife for cutting up bread to prepare sandwiches, a knife is good. If you use the same knife to stick into somebody's guts, a knife is bad. Religion in and of itself is not good or bad_it is what it makes you do… Frequently, fundamentalists will say this person is the anointed of God if the particular person is supporting their own positions on for instance, homosexuality, or abortion. feel so deeply saddened [about it]. Do you really believe that the Jesus who was depicted in the Scriptures as being on the side of those who were vilified, those who were marginalized, that this Jesus would actually be supporting groups that clobber a group that is already persecuted? That's a Christ I would not worship. I'm glad that I believe very fervently that Jesus would not be on the side of gay bashers. To think that people say, as they used to say, that AIDS was God's punishment for homosexuality. Abominable. Abominable.



When asked about fundamentalist Islam in dialogue with his thoughts about fundamental Christianity, Tutu said that it is possible, in all religions, to "simplify" the nature of the world.

It's true of every faith, that there are those people who frequently are able to provide people with simplistic answers. Life is far more complicated than we would like it to be, but we actually don't like having to work through its ambiguities. We wish we could have straightforward answers. It's not just in terms of religion_you see it in things like ethnic cleansing. Part of the reason for ethnic cleansing is that one group says we don't like people who are different from us. We want people who think like us, people who look like us, and we want to eradicate any of the diversities. We find it far easier to be in the "against" mode than in the "for" mode.



Tutu also draws parallels between apartheid South Africa and the detentions at Guantanamo Bay.

You say, why do you detain people without trial in the fashion that you have done? And when they give the answer security, you say no, no, no, this can't be America. This is what we used to hear in South Africa. It's unbelievable that a country that many of us have looked to as the bastion of true freedom could now have eroded so many of the liberties we believed were upheld almost religiously. [But] feeling as devastated in many ways as I am, it is wonderful to find that there are [also] Americans who have felt very strongly [about administration policies]_the people who turned out for rallies against the war.

MetaTag

MetaTag

United Kingdom
September 2002

DEC 31, 2004 06:12 AM

I wonder if Bush watched they show and if he was affected.

dontomas20

dontomas20

Birmingham, AL
December 2004

DEC 31, 2004 06:24 AM

If Bushed watched he probably wasn't even phased by Rev. Tutu'c comments. Politics is the Bush family religion, not Christianity.

xokatyxo

xokatyxo

United Kingdom
December 2004

DEC 31, 2004 06:48 AM

(George W. Bush watching Rev. Desmond Tutu on The Daily Show)

Dubya: (concerned pause) "Who's that guy?"

Graven

Graven

Reading, MN
March 2003

DEC 31, 2004 07:32 AM

Bush doesn't watch anything but Fox News and the Outdoor Channel. I swear.

Jordan

Jordan

SUICIDEGIRL

New York, USA

DEC 31, 2004 07:38 AM

john stewart started to cry right after 9/11, too, when he spoke about it on the daily show. that man has so much emotion, he's so beautiful. i love him wink

hermetica

hermetica

Cook Islands
January 2004

DEC 31, 2004 07:52 AM

Desmond Tutu is fucking amazing. I wish that all Christians were like him. I really do. Imagine how this world would be.

theseeman

theseeman

Asheville, NC
December 2002

DEC 31, 2004 08:58 AM

I wish he could be Pope. I had high hopes then found out he was Anglican not Catholic.

crazydasaint

crazydasaint

Washington, DC
OLD SKOOL

DEC 31, 2004 09:04 AM

Desmond Tutu is my fucking hero. He is just such a beautiful beautiful man. I almost cried when he was on the Daily Show. He spoke at my sister's GWU graduation, mainly about his leadership of the South African Truth Coalition, and it was one of the most amazing things I've ever heard.

Unlike so many religious types, he doesn't have his head in the sand about how lousy and vicious people can be to each other, because he's seen the worst of it. And yet he still loves humanity, still has hopes for us, warts and all. He's truly inspirational. In a just world he would be Pope.

MutherMaggie

MutherMaggie

Indio, CA
December 2004

DEC 31, 2004 09:27 AM

it's so refreshing to know that there is still such beauty in the world...

totovader

totovader

Minneapolis, MN
OLD SKOOL

DEC 31, 2004 12:18 PM

But religion is bad- not for what it can potentally be, but for what it is:- servitude.

pensquare

pensquare

Tustin, CA
April 2003

DEC 31, 2004 12:45 PM

saintcrazybob said:
Desmond Tutu is my fucking hero. He is just such a beautiful beautiful man. I almost cried when he was on the Daily Show. He spoke at my sister's GWU graduation, mainly about his leadership of the South African Truth Coalition, and it was one of the most amazing things I've ever heard.

Unlike so many religious types, he doesn't have his head in the sand about how lousy and vicious people can be to each other, because he's seen the worst of it. And yet he still loves humanity, still has hopes for us, warts and all. He's truly inspirational. In a just world he would be Pope.


I agree whole heartedly.