Heinlein Fans?

Anyone else addicted to Robert Heinlein?

I've been reading his stuff since I was a young boy (about 12) and I still love his work. It's kinda warped my perspectives on sex, love, and violence but I'd like to think for the better.

Re-re-re-re-re-re-reading "time enough for love" right now.

Favorite Quote from the book:
"Don' ever become a pessimist, Ira; a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun--and neither can stop the march of events."
-Lazarus Long in Time Enough for Love

i got time enough for love and the moon is a harsh mistress standing on my shelf waiting to be read, i loved starship troopers and stranger in a strange land.

I loved Stranger In A Strange Land. It really messed with how I look at the world around me... I also have a tendency now to use 'grok' in actual conversations.

grok is a wonderfull phrase, i'm still working on fully understanding it ^^
i suppose you could say im working on grokking grok.

Cle-ver.

I loved Stranger in a Strange Land too, and I use the word "grok" sometimes...but the views on homosexuality and rape expressed in that book pissed me off a bit.

Oddly I'm a fan of "Friday" but I have also read 'Stranger'.

I loved Stranger in a Strange Land and Job (pronounced Jobe). My dad has all of the books including the most recent long lost one that I got for his B-day.

'Job' was a really delightful read...

I'm just about finished with Time Enough For Love.... It's been an otherwise boring night.

The funny thing is heinlein's books really helped me get over some severe anger issues.... reading Stranger, where he talks about how to really hate something you have to cherish it until you are able to grok it. Once you grok it it's a part of you, and once it's a part of you it is no longer something to be hated... I dunno, it really rung true with me (still does) and improved my quality of life quite a bit.

Q for you Miel,
What specificly about the "views on homosexuality and rape" piss you off so? I'm not disagreeing yet, just curious.

1. "[Jill] had explained homosexuality, after Mike had read about it and failed to grok---and had given him rules for avoiding passes; she knew that Mike, pretty as he was, would attract such. He had followed her advice and made his face more masculine, instead of the androgynous beauty he had had.... Jill suspected that Mike would grok a "wrongness" in the poor in-betweeners anyhow---they would never be offered water."

Not only does he call homosexuals "poor in-betweeners" and say that there's something wrong with them, he also says that gay men are only attracted to "pretty" boys and not masculine-looking ones. But then this was the early sixties and they were still pretty closed-minded back then.

2. I can't find the exact quote right now but he also says that victims of rape were "asking for it," if even only a little. That is, of course, not at all true.

Edited because there is no such thing as a "homesexual." I think.

[Edited on Dec 26, 2004 by Miel]

what is "the cat that walks through walls" about? i dont know anything about the book but the title sounds intruiging.

It's about as awesome as it gets.... been a few years since I've read it but it's sort of a flight from danger title. Add in one grumpy but pragmatic hero, a busty (and ball busting) female heroine and a treck across the moon... good stuff.

Remember The door into summer?

My dad was a HUGE fan... so ive read pretty much all his stuff at one time or another...

Obviously 'Stranger...', 'Time enough...', etc are classics... but how about (the above-mentioned) 'Door into summer', or 'Number of the Beast' (headache inducing!) or even 'Space family Stone'?

I read that one a few months ago. It was alright. It's like reading a Political essay with characters in it.

I loved "The Door Into Summer" (what a great title).
I've liked pretty much everything of his that I've read. The last one I read was "Citizen of the Galaxy" which was pretty good. I need to read Friday, and the cat who could walk through walls though.

i'm reading time enough for love right now.

some day, i will grok in fullness.

Friday rocks. So does The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
TANSTAFL

double post, sorry!

[Edited on Dec 27, 2004 by catonyne]