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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

DEC 24, 2004 04:41 AM

Once again, forces of ignorance have conspired to mount an offensive against Catcher in the Rye. This time, the battle takes place in Portland, Maine. Andrea Minnon found out that the Salinger novel was on a high school freshman reading list. She went to the internet, read the Sparknotes, and decided, without reading the book, that the entire freshman class shouldn’t have to read it either.

Before filing her complaint, Minnon said, she and her husband researched the book using Sparknotes, an online study guide. She is now reading the book.

"That's where we got a lot of our information about (Holden Caulfield) being with a prostitute, his lying, his drinking, using girls for pleasure and his depression problems," she said.

Those mature themes, plus the profane language used by the main character, are inappropriate for 14-year-olds, she said.

Noble High School Principal Christian Elkington is standing behind his teachers' decision to put the book on the freshman reading list.


It’s currently before the school board, parents are upset, there’s a town hall meeting…pretty much the typical Footloose-Field-of-Dreams-Donnie-Darko-parental-rights-holier-than-thou bullshit.

Minnon said she might have felt differently about the book if her son had been assigned to read it when he was a junior or senior. Still, she said, the school could pick any number of books that would be appropriate for students.

To those who may think she is trying to shelter her child from the real world, Minnon said she doesn't believe any parent can do that. "I want him to discover things for himself, but with my guidance," she said.


And look how it worked out for Holden Caulfield.

I only hope that the entire freshman class reads Catcher in the Rye now that it's forbidden, considered dirty, and will become a whole new generation's subversive (and favorite) literature.

Seriously, did Salinger come out of his house, see his shadow, and now there's ten more years of assholes burning books?

minimalism

minimalism

Argentina
OLD SKOOL

DEC 24, 2004 09:08 AM

Yeah, reading a book about the loss of innocence is in appropiate for kids right around the age where they'd be experiencing their own loss of innocence. Smart move to ban it. And while you are at it why not burn all his cds. I'm sure that your children will grow up completely well adjusted then.

walkswithbears

walkswithbears

United Kingdom
March 2003

DEC 24, 2004 09:17 AM

if the news story is about the kid's mum, why did they print a photo of his dad confused



jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

DEC 24, 2004 09:22 AM

walkswithbears said:
if the news story is about the kid's mum, why did they print a photo of his dad confused





No, Eddie Izzard, why are you doing this?

nickfear

nickfear

La Verne, CA
October 2004

DEC 24, 2004 09:25 AM

There isn't a thing in that book that your averge 14 year old hasn't been exposed to from TV a million times already. What a wanker.

alpha_hazard

alpha_hazard

Fort Collins, CO
April 2004

DEC 24, 2004 09:26 AM

why can these people grow a pair and actually burn the fucking books...at least then there is no confusion.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

DEC 24, 2004 09:27 AM

So she's not trying to ban it from the library or prevent it from being taught ever, right? Fucking deal. Pick a new book.

bruiser_boy

bruiser_boy

Lewiston, ME
September 2003

DEC 24, 2004 09:42 AM

Actually, the school board ruled against the parents two or three days ago.

Oracle

Oracle

Winnipeg, MB
September 2003

DEC 24, 2004 09:43 AM

i love that book...

Dunx

dunx

San Antonio, TX
July 2003

DEC 24, 2004 09:46 AM

Cigarette said:
So she's not trying to ban it from the library or prevent it from being taught ever, right? Fucking deal. Pick a new book.



I agree. She's even quoted in the article saying that she probably would not have a problem were her son a junior or senior rather than a freshman-a right I think she's entitled to. Hell, I didn't read that till I was a junior I think, and for students to look at the novel the way one should, I think she might actually be right...

She didn't start picketing, she didn't lose it, she's not some nut invoking the Bible-she started civilized discourse about when it should be taught and hasn't tried (despite the misleading title of this news story) to have it censored or banned outright. She's even reading it herself now. So I have to ask: isn't the the very model of how concerned parents should act in such a situation?

[Edited on Dec 24, 2004 9:47AM]

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

DEC 24, 2004 10:19 AM

Well, it's fine if she's not sure her kid should be reading it. It's not so fine if she decides his peers also shouldn't be. Although I must say that if I were those freshmen, I'd be breathing a sigh of relief. LOATHED that book. So aimless, pointless, redundant. Holden's not going through anything most of us haven't been, less even. And there's no fricking plot.

Michael_J_Totten

Michael_J_Totten

Iraq
February 2004

DEC 24, 2004 10:19 AM

Maybe we should just have all the kids read Sesame Street books in English class then.

SomethingStupid

SomethingStupid

North Hollywood, CA
March 2004

DEC 24, 2004 10:25 AM

malkav11 said:
So aimless, pointless, redundant. Holden's not going through anything most of us haven't been, less even. And there's no fricking plot.


I'm not exactly defending it, because I don't think it's the end-all, be-all of books, but this really is the point of the book. Holden isn't a writer and so does not know how to separate the important things from the unimportant, which results in a lot of repetition and otherwise pointless passages. His life is aimless and pointless, and yes, all of us have been there. At the time especially, it was pretty revolutionary to do that with a book. I'm not going to go so far as to say that that makes it a good book, because that is a judgment call. But all of the things you mentioned are intentional.

Horrorflick

Horrorflick

Detroit, MI
February 2003

DEC 24, 2004 10:28 AM

How about Catch Her in the Rear?

IGoByManyNames

IGoByManyNames

Reunion
July 2004

DEC 24, 2004 10:33 AM

While this woman sounds a little sheltered and freakish -- does she really think kids younger than 14 don't do and talk about things much worse than in that novel? -- and while I'm glad the principal of the HS is not caving into pressure, the problem is that all of those kids will want to read that whiney piece of crap. I mean that book just plain sucked. Salinger is great for younger audiences but why not Franny and Zooey? Nine Stories? Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenters and Seymour? In this battle, there can be no true winner.

mauzer

mauzer

I'm lost
October 2004

DEC 24, 2004 10:36 AM

If it were not for that book and my sister who gave it to me my freshmen year; I would never have escaped the months of enui I experienced in Paris.

MrGinger

MrGinger

San Rafael, CA
November 2003

DEC 24, 2004 10:49 AM

That lady's kid is going to smoke a lot of crack one day. Probably as soon as he moves away.

Lotusmonger

Lotusmonger

Chicago, IL
May 2004

DEC 24, 2004 11:18 AM

further proof noone learns anything... except the SG community

she should really be a better example... I mean reading the Sparknotes before the book, like she can keep a thought longer than three pages! She's the fucking bad influence on people who don't read.

seriously, people like that SHOULD BE CENSORED WITH A GOOD STEEL BOOT.

googused

googused

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

DEC 24, 2004 12:17 PM

mauzer said:
If it were not for that book and my sister who gave it to me my freshmen year; I would never have escaped the months of enui I experienced in Paris.



heh heh - best post of the thread! surreal

...except you spelled ennui wrong.

[Edited on Dec 24, 2004 by googuse]

BuckKnuckle

BuckKnuckle

Portland, OR
September 2004

DEC 24, 2004 12:25 PM

mauzer said:
If it were not for that book and my sister who gave it to me my freshmen year; I would never have escaped the months of enui I experienced in Paris.




This is the opening sentence of a new movie by Wes Anderson. I just know it.

surlyclown

surlyclown

Los Angeles, CA
March 2004

DEC 24, 2004 12:51 PM

I read 'The Exorcist' when I was 11 and I'm a well-adjusted, thoughtful person...um...hmmm...now that I think about it...nevermind. blush whatever

laine666

laine666

Portland, OR
June 2003

DEC 24, 2004 12:52 PM


mauzer said:
If it were not for that book and my sister who gave it to me my freshmen year; I would never have escaped the months of enui I experienced in Paris.




"if it weren't for my horse, i never would have spent that year in college"

confused confused confused
surreal

TAFKASP

TAFKASP

Oakland, CA
June 2003

DEC 24, 2004 12:57 PM

she's not advocating a book burning or complete banishment of the book, so she isn't a nazi. let's save the real criticism for the real nazi's.

what it seems she's doing is expressing her opinion and trying to rally others around that opinion -- to change the age level at which Catcher is appropriate to be introduced as part of the curriculum (IMHO, the book should be available to any student in the library though).

i kind of agree, that book should be introduced to junior/senior level kids -- but for a completely different reason. when i was 14, i couldn't appreciate Catcher -- it was just another book i had to read. i was more interested in playing Nintendo. but by the time i was a Senior, the book made a lot more sense and i could identify with it and appreciate it more.

as far as the elements: prostitution -- i went to a christian elementary school, and i heard of mary magdalene the prostitute when i was in the 4th grade. drinking -- my father was an alcoholic, so i didn't need a book to corrupt my little mind. profanity -- give me a fucking break! listen to 14 years olds talk. they already know the words. using girls for pleasure -- in a book, that's subtext to a 14 year old. depression -- a part of life.

Griffith

Griffith

Richmond, KY
February 2004

DEC 24, 2004 01:08 PM

The thing that always confused me about the people getting upset because there's a prostitute in the story is...that...Holden just talks with her. They don't -do- anything. She's...she's just a lady. All that really happens is him getting the shit kicked out of him a bit later... Or maybe that was his plan all along! Holden, you dirty, dirty masochist. For shame.

randomcharacters

randomcharacters

I'm lost
August 2004

DEC 24, 2004 01:11 PM

malkav11 said:
Well, it's fine if she's not sure her kid should be reading it. It's not so fine if she decides his peers also shouldn't be. Although I must say that if I were those freshmen, I'd be breathing a sigh of relief. LOATHED that book. So aimless, pointless, redundant. Holden's not going through anything most of us haven't been, less even. And there's no fricking plot.


Holden is a whinny bitch.

simple as that. Kids shouldn't be indentifying with a character like that. I sure as hell didn't idenify with him when i read the book in high school. His problems are so lightweight (what, he's failing out of a private school because he's not trying? oh woe is he) that it's an insult to expect kids to feel sympathy for him.

edit: maybe it is good for kids to read this book. whenever i think about sitting around and bitching about my life, i think of holden and what a little bitch he is, and how i don't want to be like that. robot

[Edited on Dec 24, 2004 by randomcharacters]

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